Just wanted to share this simple way to use kaspersky for free ( forum.kaspersky.com )

You can use kaspersky beta versions for free by downloading and installing it from their forum.

As a side note, after you install it you need to disable the debugging options once to get the optimal performance.

theshatterstone54 ,

Only AVs worth your time are:

common sense

an open source ad and tracker blocker

MS Defender if on Windows

ClamAV (or nothing like most people) if on Linux

CrabAndBroom ,

Also, I wouldn't trust Kaspersky with anything important personally. It's from an older interview but...

If you had the power to change up to three things in the world today that are related to IT security, what would they be?

Internet design--that's enough.

That's it? What's wrong with the design of the Internet?

There's anonymity. Everyone should and must have an identification, or Internet passport. The Internet was designed not for public use, but for American scientists and the U.S. military. That was just a limited group of people--hundreds, or maybe thousands. Then it was introduced to the public and it was wrong…to introduce it in the same way.

I'd like to change the design of the Internet by introducing regulation--Internet passports, Internet police and international agreement--about following Internet standards. And if some countries don't agree with or don't pay attention to the agreement, just cut them off.

Tattatta ,

This is the piracy community so I'll write it out:
If you are pirating software you probably need an antivirus and windows defender is easily bypassable.

hurtn ,

kaspersky is a virus

smileyhead , (edited )

I wouldn't install it even if I would be paid.

dubyakay ,

"paid" schreibt man das.

Auzy ,

If you're going to make your system worse, you should also combine with Norton anti virus too.

Either that, or just use the Microsoft one that is free

user224 ,
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https://i.imgur.com/oHFJ8ba.gif

HubertManne ,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

why the heck would I want this when clam exists?!

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

Immunet shutdown in jan, so no clam.

HubertManne ,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

? "latest version 1.3.1 / 17 April 2024"

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunet

HubertManne ,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

you don't have to run clam from the cloud

LemmyQuest OP , (edited )
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

I believe you can't run clamav as av on windows.

HubertManne ,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

https://clamwin.com/

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

Last update 2021

HubertManne ,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

software. the definitions brought in are the latest.

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

The software does not support windows 11.

HubertManne ,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

oh yeah. this is just another reason im not going to 11. luckily gaming is getting well enough on linux for me to drop the last vestiges of windows. if a game won't run on wine then eff em.

Gimpydude ,

ClamAV is alive and well. Immunet != ClamAV even if that was the engine Immunet used.

CaptainBasculin ,

Only reasonable purchase for anti virus are for companies where all it could take is one weak link for a hacker to cause all sorts of trouble. Common sense is best AV.

Observer1199 ,

That's an asinine statement to make and suggests a lack of common sense.

Any website can be compromised, even if only for a short time and zero click zero-day vulnerabilites exist. Companies are not the only ones at risk from this or the only ones with something to lose if their system gets compromised.

Common sense is important but not enough (and evidently not common enough).

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

Why would you download Russian Software even for free, that stuff is a bigger security threat than any other virus.

zaknenou ,
@zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I downvoted because I think this is not true. Kaspersky holds a company in UK and their reputation is the best so far in terms of efficiency, service and respect to terms with costumers. And from my experience pirating software (including video games) it is better than Windows defender in that it has less to no false positives, and detects the actual malware. Hell it even saves the system after being infected, I am told this by 2 friends and my brother.

And it offers real time protection on the free tier so it beats Malwarebytes in this aspect.

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

I downvoted because its a Russian company and anti-virus are a scam in general.

zaknenou ,
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umm, shouldn't you elaborate more? imo opinion using Kaspersky can save a lot of newbies getting into piracy, so what experience is making us hate on it on forums and discourage using it? I'd understand if you said you prefer Malwarebytes which is American based I think and the best competitor out there to Kaspersky. But saying that AVs are scams is simply not true by logic and by experience.

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

No.

No Russia in my house, No China in my house and no "anti virus" software.

zaknenou ,
@zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

welp, can't argue with beliefs

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/ccb10eee-ee73-4898-93e8-8e9394826d8d.jpeg

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

Cool pic, glad i sparked some controversy.

Pic is mine now.

gemew26 ,

is this an anime?

zaknenou ,
@zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

yes it is from Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song

gemew26 ,

beautfiful page on mal, added on my plan to watch list

eya ,

No Russia in my house

You do realize where 99% of pirated anything comes from, right?

No China in my house

You do realize where 99% of stuff is manufactured, right? The device you are using right now has components made in China.

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

Ew a pro China person.

Taiwan is a country!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NXpPpFzLcZg/maxresdefault.jpg

Also most cracks are from South America nowadays. Russians did many as well, but the crackers aren't likely to be affiliated to the government and dont fund a war.

eya ,

Taiwan is a country

Correct, doesn't change the fact a lot of stuff is still made in mainland China.

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

Lot of stuff, but you can mostly avoid it when you are aware of it. You cant look into everything but you don't need to buy stuff you know is likely infested with winnie-pooh.exe it's the quantity that makes the poison deadly, limit the amount of China intake to live a happy and sustainable life.

wolfshadowheart ,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

doesn’t change the fact a lot of stuff is still made in mainland China.

Which doesn't change the fact that you can do your due diligence to avoid purchasing things made there? That is their point, afterall...

Imgonnatrythis ,

anti-virus are a scam in general

Great... The anti-vaxxers figured out how to use Lemmy.

kugmo ,
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can uninstall an anti virus not not the covid vaccine.

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

Lmao

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

Tbh Linux is kinda enough. Difference between a computer and a human is that you can limit what goes in. Also most viruses are for windows, the equivalent would be covid only working on Asian people that ate the bat or had sex with the people that did.

prettybunnys ,

Linux is not enough, that’s a dated mindset.

Most viruses these days are mobile in nature which gives you a 50% shot of which *nix you’re on. You’re either on a Unix like os based on MacOS or heavily modified Linux kernel.

BearOfaTime ,

Kaspersky has been shit for at least 15 years.

There was a huge fiasco with them in the early 2000's.

Why would anyone use their garbage today?

PixeIOrange ,

Hell it even saves the system after being infected, I am told this by 2 friends and my brother.

No. Once a System is infected you cant trust it anymore no matter what you do. There are many FUD (Fully Un Detected) viruses out there that cant 100% surely be found. You dont know if the found virus has infected the machine with some of these. Its a big red flag that this option is available in kaspersky. Save your data and set up a new system is the only correct, nearly 100% save option.

zaknenou ,
@zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I mean that the three story tellers downloaded infected software that locked the system but downloading Kaspersky unlocked it. One was LaTeX packages the other little nightmares 2 the game and my brother downloaded a design software.
The LaTeX package made the system unusable and encrypted data, asking for money for decryption. (windows7)
The game also made the system unresponsive and started uploading data, additionally social media accounts pf the owner were hacked. (Windows 10)
In both scenarios the owner didn't have Kaspersky and downloaded it only after infection, and it made the system function normally again. Although it didn't decrypt the files in the first case.
In the case of my brother his social media accounts were hacked and system started dying but he just relaunched Kaspersky (he paused it cuz crack asked him to do so lol) and the system survived functioning as always (although he had to rescue his accounts manually).

While it is debatable whether Kaspersky actually cleaned all the malware from the system, we can agree that the fact that system was rescued for the user to prepare for the re_installation is a good service.

sleepybisexual ,
@sleepybisexual@beehaw.org avatar

Never pirate anything that runs with any privilege, that means antivirus, VPN etc.

Also, why use an av?

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

This is an offical beta version.

"Why use an av?"

Sadly, because JavaScript exists.

sleepybisexual ,
@sleepybisexual@beehaw.org avatar

Oh oki.

About js. Why not just use something like ublock+ noscript + Firefox

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

Firefox on desktop is very bad in terms of performance.

Noscript, does not protect when you need javascript( this from a person who disable JavaScript in the browser settings)

ublock is not bullet proof and still has a lot of blind spots.

SaltySalamander ,

Kaspersky is a Russian company. No thank you.

krolden ,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Why would you use kaspersky?

WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

anti virus is scam. Or malware themselves

zaknenou ,
@zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/c99daac4-9f11-4e96-a48a-1eea1fadd0a1.webp
But I think Kaspersky already offers real time protection on the free tier

what are the additional features in this method ?

Asphalt ,

But why would I need it?

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

I’m mentioning this because I’ve noticed that Kaspersky is a common choice among many PC users I know. This might be useful information for those who are considering their options.

Additionally, when searching for antivirus recommendations on platforms like Reddit, Lemmy, or YouTube, Kaspersky frequently appears as a highly regarded option.

catloaf ,

I have only seen people recommend against Kaspersky for years.

jnk , (edited )

I haven't found a serious critic that didn't rely on fucking racism yet. If the only real argument is "rUsSian cOmPAny bAD" but you're ok with USA companies, you're just braindead.

I don't even use windows for that same reason, but if a windows user asks me, based on past experiences with low end computers (where you can actually tell the diference), I'd always recommend kaspersky for performance and malwarebytes for precision.

Pro tip: Downvotes without arguments only prove my point.

BearOfaTime ,

Kaspersky had a serious fiasco in the early 2000's, that's good enough for me.

Once a software vendor demonstrates theyre untrustworthy, why would I risk using their products?

And spare us from the sophist personal attack on people you disagree with.

At worst it's jingoism, except there's no question of there being significant Russian efforts to meddle in the US and other countries.

jnk ,

Once a software vendor demonstrates theyre untrustworthy, why would I risk using their products?

How are you using windows then? They've had innumerable security breaches, not to talk about how MS demonstrates again and again that the only thing they care about is money. Does "trustworthy" mean "american" or "only sells my data to the USA gov and other US companies" then sure, it is trustworthy as fuck.

Of course you will invalidate that with some mental gymnastics, but this same thing happens even with freaking usb (charge only, mind me) cables from aliexpress, with people saying they have fucking chips to spy on you. Again, racism.

And spare us from the sophist personal attack on people you disagree with

Try to put it however you want, but hating anything that comes from one place just because of that, then adding excuses is fucking racist.

except there's no question of there being significant Russian efforts to meddle in the US and other countries.

And here comes the grand patriotic justification for racism! If you really don't have shit to say about the actual software, just block me or something and spare me from your presence :)

retro ,
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Microsoft Defender is good and free, but it is heavier on system resources than any reputable AV. Kasperskey is near the top for least impact on system performance.

mindlight ,

Interesting.
Do you have links that support your claims that I can read up on?

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

https://www.av-comparatives.org/comparison/

mindlight ,

That chart doesn't say anything about system resource usage.

Edit: found the performance chart now. Still no explanation on what performance tests(more than two sentences) they performed and how the scoring was applied.

LemmyQuest OP ,
@LemmyQuest@lemm.ee avatar

https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/performance-test-october-2023/

Telorand ,

TBH, that still looks good for MS. It suffered a little with compressed archives (mediocre), installation was "fast," and the rest were "very fast." Certainly not as perfect as some, but unless you're doing lots of installs and working with compressed files, I bet nobody would even notice this difference in real world use cases.

BearOfaTime ,

The only place I notice Defender is on an old system (10 years) that's had a billion changes - App installs/uninstalls, etc.

With a 4TB data drive, and a C drive that's 90% full. Poor machine has been abused.

Don't notice any issues on other machines, even when using 7zip on 100 gig archives.

zaknenou ,
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why would I need the best Anti Viruse ?

BearOfaTime ,

Hahahaha

You must be too young to remember the shit show Kaspersky had in the early 2000's.

I forget the details, but it was clear Kaspersky had become like Norton and the other formerly great names.

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