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I mean, if speed is the only reason to upgrade what would be the point? A phone can never make use of 6E speeds it’s entirely pointless to have even faster.

Are there some other benefits it’s missing out on?

Honestly though by the time wifi 7 is out in the world enough to be utilised the majority of Pixel 8 phones will be on the scrapheap.

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I mean 10gb/s is already like 20x more than you would need for that and probably more.

Having near 50gb/s is like, the bandwidth of an entire university campus going into your phone or something. Like just so overkill. You could stream 4K netflix over 3000 times over literally. Like, what could the use for that ever be? You couldn’t even write or store that much data on your phone lol.

It’s like saying you are disappointed because your new car is speed restricted to 50000 mph. Like…cool? It ain’t gonna reach that so we’re fine.

Which is why I asked if it had other benefits like better range or something, presumably that would be the benefit to be hyped over if any.

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I believe ads are only showing in certain views. The more compact views like List which I use, does not have any ad support lol. When I swapped to the larger cards view I immediately saw ads there.

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Impressive! Honestly I can totally understand this growth myself because it mirrors very well my own interactions here. When third party apps died I came here, tried a bunch of apps, made a bunch of comments and then didn’t really stick around because I couldn’t find a good enough app I liked.

Then when Sync released I have barely touched reddit and been 95% on Lemmy again.

I am still very impressed if Sync alone is responsible for 4 million additional comments per day though. That is rather staggering if it’s true.

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Good point. I’m unsure on the exact dates/times/timezones involved but it does sort of look like there was a good increase in comments maybe a day or so before Sync release. If that is not Sync though I’m struggling to think what else would cause it…

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Hmm, yeah I see what you are saying. I mean you’re right that would be an insane number of comments wouldn’t it.

I wonder then where that figure is from and why it jumped so much?

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Lol yeah I agree with Mastodon. I checked it out and it’s like…yep looks like Twitter, and I fucking hate Twitter, just feels like some weird celebrity and brand worship platform. The focus on Lemmy/Reddit at least is the content, and nobody really cares who posted or created it for the most part. Everyone is equal and content speaks for itself, it’s a far nicer concept to me.

o_oli OP ,
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Not sure how useful it is, but you can choose various colums and get some further information here:

lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

Interestingly there is some definite fuckery going on with the stats - one server has 80 users and 1.2 million comments. So this whole thread is probably rather pointless when stuff like that exists lol.

o_oli OP ,
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Good question. Best I could find is this:

backlinko.com/reddit-users#how-many-comments-are-…

Which says Reddit comments in 2020 were 2 billion (I think that’s net for the year not total all time at the end of that year at least?)

So thats ~5.5 million per day

Very safe to say Lemmy is not getting double that lol so these charts are misleading/confusing.

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Consensus seems to be the lemmy chart is actually total cumulative comments, but I can’t really work out where millions of comments would come from in a matter of days. Maybe some weird bot spam on some random instance that is being counted when it probably shouldn’t.

Enjoy the chicken!

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Yeah will be nice when we can create posts. Its pretty easy on mobile web browser though the UI is clean enough for just that task in the meantime.

o_oli OP ,
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The chart is for ‘all servers’ already supposedly rather than from the perspective of a single instance though so would that be possible? Or can an instance exist sort of privately and then become visible causing a spike?

o_oli OP ,
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You know I did actually question myself when I wrote that haha, but I went with it anyway.

I mean the definition could still probably apply though perhaps under the logic that the developer has nothing to do with the development of Lemmy. He is just a third party to it. The lack of a first party doesn’t change that Sync is a third party, maybe…

Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things.

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Yeah it’s a tricky one isn’t it. There hopefully will become a better solution for helping people onboard to different servers that suit them but without making too big of a hurdle.

I must admit I joined .world without understanding anything and it was prompted to me so yeah the default choice has a big say. I have donated to server costs though, felt like I should do my part at least!

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Reddit probably thinks it won. They killed all the apps and now they will increasingly force feed monetisation down the necks of the userbase until everyone decides to leave just like they left Facebook.

Which is their goal too probably that’s how IPOs go, and how corporations handle tech companies, buy it milk it and let it die. Nobody cares about long term It’s all about profit this quarter then ditch the shares to the next sucker.

Reddit will go the same way as Facebook. Never die, but it will be like visiting a retirement village.

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You visit that server directly and create a new account and log in with that. There is no way to ‘switch’ although I think people have created ways to migrate your subscriptions etc over to a different server.

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I guess if you’re just looking for a generic reddit-like experience then .world for now seems to do the job just fine. Ultimately it has admins that can choose to de-federate from any other server and they may do that to ones you would rather they didn’t. Every server is going to be somewhat unique on that front with their own set of rules to follow (or not).

It’s really interesting because it always will become somewhat political - with servers that have a tendency for more extreme views whether right or left wing, where do you draw the line before deciding to cut them off? That has already been happening in the short time I joined with servers like Hexbear which I honestly still don’t fully understand the history and complexity of the situation.

My plan so far at least is to keep an eye on the lemmy.world announcements subreddit and if they do anything that I disagree with too much then I can move on elsewhere but I’m quite happy letting others do that level of curation for now at least without keeping too much of a close eye.

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Yeah as I discovered in another comment chain it’s more than reddit had in 2020 even which was ‘only’ 5.5 million daily - the chart unfortunately is rather confusingly labeled and useless and represents total comments and not daily. I can only assume a random bot spike happened or something.

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I dunno, 80% of people lurk and probably 15% of people comment and 5% actually post or something I would imagine (made up the numbers but that’d be my guess).

So getting browsing and commenting out caters to 95% of people, in a time where being the ‘first to market’ out of the big reddit android clients is probably quite a big deal, that makes a lot of sense rather than delaying release until posting works.

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That is a fair and good point. I was indeed using reddit as a basis for my assumptions and that may well be different for Lemmy.

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Topic specific instances aka porn probably lol

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Yeah agree this is annoying. I don’t use hide very often, even if that was stored client side as a list of hidden posts I wouldn’t mind.

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  • o_oli ,
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    Are you sorting by Top? It’s a known bug, hopefully be fixed soon. Someone said also happens to them with Hot sorting.

    github.com/laurencedawson/sync-for-lemmy/…/133

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    The userbase is also like 100x smaller yet it takes the same amount of upkeep as a developer. Of course he is going to charge more and that is fair enough imo.

    Ultimately if you don’t like it, don’t pay it.

    o_oli ,
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    What is unclear? If someone makes an app that improves the user experience and they charge for it, then that’s exactly how?

    Lemmy is still FOSS, doesn’t mean everything that interacts with it has to be.

    o_oli ,
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    Yeah and I think that’s a fair take. I think most people are probably in a similar boat. I’m not willing to commit much money to Lemmy because it’s such a new and untested platform so we will see.

    For me so far I’ve yet to see a single advert on Sync anyway so I’m not exactly sure where they are supposed to be in the first place.

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    This x1000

    I tried basically every app going on Android and they are all either buggy as fuck, unintuitive or janky in some other way. The user experience was just horrible.

    I really do not understand all the people claiming Sync has an equivalent. It just does not right now in terms of a polished user experience.

    Honestly it’s just Linux vs Windows kinda situation to me. No matter how many nerds tell me Linux can do everything the same and is more customisable and better, it’s just a worse user experience. Windows is far more intuitive and polished and there is a reason it has the market share it does.

    o_oli ,
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    I never said Linux isn’t capable of being the smoothest and most intuitive experience. Just that its not

    o_oli ,
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    That’s not true. Intuitive UI design is absolutely a thing, and something people spend a lot of time, effort and money researching and implementing…

    o_oli ,
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    Intuitive means it makes sense instinctively. Touchscreens with pinch to zoom are a good example of intuitive UI design. Children can pick up an iPad and learn to use it quickly with no instruction. That’s intuitive design and of course it exists.

    Is your custom script heavy system more efficient for your workflow? I’m sure, but picking it up out of the box it’s going to be horrible for a new user, they will be slow on it, it’ll be unenjoyable and annoying. That’s my point really, every Lemmy app I tried was unenjoyable and annoying. Sync on the other hand I have never used before, but out of the box? It works, I’m happy browsing with zero issues or errors or struggles within minutes. That’s intuitive design.

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    I mean I can’t afford to fund a study to prove my point sure so it’s anecdotal and speculation, but I really do think if you give a new user who is unfamiliar with any kind of app a choice of all apps available, they would get on immediately better with sync. It’s a smoother experience, less likely to run into bugs or errors, and it has WAY better error handling if you do etc.

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    That’s wild. Like man I’m impressed with Sync and think it’s great but you’d have to be using it for 7 years for this to be worth it…Lemmy is so new you’d be mad to be making a gamble like this.

    Stop posts from hiding after being read?

    EDIT: FIXED - Thanks to a helpful Discord user, it turns out this was a setting on Lemmy not on Sync. On lemmy.world settings I had ‘show read posts’ unchecked. I presume that’s default unless I ticked it by accident. Whoops. I’ll leave this post up incase it helps anyone else though....

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    Thank you for the suggestion! Weirdly, even with that disabled, they still dissapear after I have clicked into them. Although the app no longer marks them as read with a different colour, they still vanish and never reappear after a refresh or app restart.

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    Haha what the hell I thought it was an image. That really is neat.

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    How strange! Seems there is some weird behaviour around hidden posts then. Hopefully that gets ironed out over the next few updates.

    o_oli ,
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    Ultimately if it earns more money, people will do it, and I can’t blame people for wanting to earn more money because I’m sure most of us would do the same in that position. Like sure £1.99 to perma remove ads is great but I’m sure you can’t retire on that as a dev lol.

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    Same. I’m still more excited for Boost but Sync actually makes Lemmy useable for me. None of the other apps were good enough to drag me away from Boost for reddit.

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    It doesn’t? For me it’s showing 366 reviews with 5.0 rating. Which is rather impressive.

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