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Besides lemmy, what's another good reddit alternative?

Hi! Recently exiled reddit user, here. I'm curious what other alternatives to reddit there are, besides Lemmy, and Raddle, of course. Also, imho, Phuks is a good alternative, there's no hate-speech (that I'm aware of) and people are pretty respectful. Anyways, let's hear your suggestions! Thank you!

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PieFed! That's the only other threadiverse project I know of.

Are there any innovative platforms in the Fediverse?

I've explored a few platforms within the Fediverse, but most of them seem to be inspired by and mimic existing mainstream social media platforms like Twitter, Reddit, and Facebook. While this familiarity can be comforting, I can't help but wonder if there are any truly innovative and original platforms out there that offer a...

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Indeed, that's an excellent point. Additionally, the fediverse is already an innovation in and of itself.

Yeah most fediverse projects mimic Twitter, reddit, etc. But they all add the key innovation of federation. Just by conforming to ActivityPub, each fediverse project features a key innovation in its respective niche.

I think part of the reason this doesn't seem as impactful as it could is because federation is still very rudimentary. We are only scratching the surface of the potential that federation theoretically provides. It's a feature/innovation that becomes more useful the larger the network grows, and the fediverse isn't large enough yet for that to become apparent.

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I remember hearing that Lemmy's NLnet funding was going to run out soon.

Does this mean the Lemmy devs could potentially reapply for additional funding, or is this only for "new projects"?

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Ok thanks for the info. Fingers crossed 🤞

With discord planning to show ads, how can the fediverse/lemmy benefit from another proprietary program making itself worse? (Like it was with reddit)

Do you think that the fediverse has something to gain with the enshitfication of discord? Are there voice chat programs in the fediverse that can benefit from it?

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I wouldn't say barely usable, but it does have a long way to go before it could be a replacement for discord, that's true

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You seem to be confusing Lemmy.world with Lemmy as a whole. Lemmy is free to be used for anything by anyone.

Lemmy.world is the largest and most mainstream Lemmy server, so they need to be especially careful about legal issues. If lemmy.world gets taken down due to mirroring content hosted on lemmy.dbzer0.com, the whole network would partially collapse because of how many users and communities are hosted on lemmy.world.

It's not even close to worth the risk. This is how federation is supposed to work.

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Yiffit.net, ani.social, and lemmynsfw.com. Those are the main defederations that I think are a little harsh.

Aside from those, most of the other blocked instances are pretty egregious (mostly pedophilia and alt-right) and SJW has blocked many of the same ones.

The only major server with less defederation is Lemm.ee.

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That's weird, I haven't seen u/spez around here lately.

Reddit was great for at least 5-10 years, the main issue that caused everyone to leave was that it became corporatized and had to start making a profit. That can literally never happen on Lemmy, because it's free and decentralized. So yes, Lemmy is special and insulated from corporate abuse. If you can't understand the value of that, you may as well go back to reddit.

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Idk about ani.social but the other two are. Ani.social has a general anime discussion community that was created as a replacement for the anime community on lemmy.ml and has rapidly surpassed it in activity. You're not allowed to link !anime on lemmy.ml either.

Lemmy.ml admins would argue they host loli/pedo content, but ani.social would argue it's just mainstream anime content and it's part of the genre. I don't really know more than that, but I think it's a bit unfair to describe the whole ani.social server as being used for porn.

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It's definitely not ideal to be this centralized around lemmy.world. But it's also nearly impossible to prevent some amount of centralization, especially at our current size. With only 50k active users, we don't have enough people to sustain activity if things were more spread out.

It's still so early. If we get to 500k or 5M users, things will naturally get way more decentralized. A year ago, about 70-80% of the whole network was basically centralized on lemmy.ml. I dont have the exact numbers because I wasn't here yet, but looking back at the stats there were only a few thousand active users at that time and the vast majority were on lemmy.ml

Now, only about 40% of the network is on lemmy.world (20k/50k users). I just think there are natural incentives that will continue to push us in the direction of decentralization, but we haven't quite reached the tipping point where that starts to happen.

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That's just because kbin doesn't work properly though. One reason why things are centralized is because there are only so many servers that actually work well.

Events like this removal of the piracy community will naturally cause people to spread out over time. You could even see people try to spread out on reddit by making new subs when they chafed at the rules.

The more people we have, the more diverse we will become, and thus it will be necessary to create new servers to accommodate these different types of people. That's my instinct, but there are many different ways it could go.

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It usually is federated quickly within Lemmy itself. I can't speak for kbin but in my experience on SJW, I typically get all the content from remote instances in real time.

I know there are some technical issues with the scaling of federation though, but hopefully that can be improved on.

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I'm not from lemmy.world, I'm from sh.itjust.works. We have never banned you at all. And I understand your argument.

But it's not our place to decide what the lemmy.world admins do with their server. It also doesn't affect you personally at all. It's not like they defederated your server, it only affects their users who were subscribed to that community, and they can always just make an account on another server.

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Sometimes people centralize, and sometimes they decentralize. They are both natural social behaviors.

If people naturally gravitate to the place everyone is, why are we all on Lemmy instead of reddit? Why do I have absolutely no desire to be a part of lemmy.world, where everyone else is? People are not all the same.

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Huh, that's too bad about feddit.ch, at least they have a good alternative in feddit.de I suppose.

Good info btw 👌

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And feddit.it also!

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Yeah I couldn't wait for the upgrade because I was so curious about how many lurkers we had that weren't showing up as active accounts.

For the instance as a whole, it went from 1.4k MAUs to 2.88k MAUs, so just over half of our users are lurkers. Based on this information we can assume lemmy.world will probably show close to 20k MAUs once they upgrade to 0.19.3.

Meaning Lemmy is probably around 50k monthly active users in total. Not too shabby

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If anyone has invites to a decent tracker, hmu.

Just shamelessly begging, I haven't been on a private tracker in over a decade but I should probably step up my game again with the way that streaming services are headed.

My previous experience was that I was completely incapable of maintaining a decent seed ratio on my home connection. I felt that many users were using seedboxes with really high upload speeds and hogging all the seeding. But I still felt it was quite a valuable community because, as people have already mentioned, the organization and quality of the torrents is infinitely better. So I basically used it sparingly for stuff that was hard to find. They also had a bunch of free-leech torrents that didn't affect your ratio, which was a really nice feature. Honestly can't remember the name of the site though.

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24 TB NAS (expandable to 432 TB over time)

Damn, nice! I'll let you know if an invite comes my way, sounds like you would get better use out of it than me

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Thanks for the lead 👍

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Definitely sounds like that. I just cross-posted this from the other fediverse community since I saw it wasn't posted here. I also thought it was about Piefed, if I'm being completely honest 😅

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Cool concept. It'd be dope if it could get reskinned for YuGiOh and Pokémon too. Despite being a card-carrying nerd, MTG is beyond my ken.

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That's a miniscule amount compared to PSH facilities, whether it's 2 MW capacity or 2 MWh storage.

It's a cool concept but practically seems limited to niche applications due to the small capacity. Granted it is a prototype, but it also seems intuitive that pumping large amounts of water would be more efficient than moving solid blocks of heavy material for a gravity battery design.

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I was thinking that you would need increasingly beefy motors and cables/cranes as the size of the rocks scales. But for a reservoir, you could use the same pump over a longer period of time to store much more energy. It's also easy to utilize a body of water with a volume much greater than the volume of a vertical cylinder.

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You're clearly a hipster. Don't ask for sympathy from us, you've made your choices

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They can't see the downvotes in Mastodon anyway, if I'm not mistaken.

(Assuming you meant to say don't downvote)

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Yeah I don't do it personally. But I also don't begrudge people for downvoting if they find the formatting annoying. The reality is that Mastodon and Lemmy simply don't play nice together atm, and that's a user experience issue that needs to be resolved anyway.

Some of us are willing to put up with the UX annoyances to see what the Mastodon users have to contribute, while others simply don't have the patience to deal with the hassle. The solution is to fix the integration so Mastdon users can post seamlessly without people even noticing they're using a different platform.

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I like communities and sublemmies.

Coms/commus sounds forced and unnecessary, doubt it’ll catch on.

As for Lemmies, I think that should be a synonym for instances/servers. So, for example, the biggest Lemmy with the most sublemmies would be lemmy.world.

And of course, the users are lemmings.

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Sync is dope. Does anyone know if there is a setting to display both upvotes and downvotes? That's my only minor annoyance so far. I think showing the cumulative votes misses a lot of context.

The customizable swipe actions are amazing 🙌

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Yeah I couldn't find it either. I know there are some features that were ported over from the reddit app that don't have any function on Lemmy yet. "Show Short Scores" might be one of them

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Yeah they’re vastly smaller than Lemmy, which is probably why they felt the need to go open source. But without federation, open source doesn’t do much to change things.

I do like the site and the userbase, so if they were open to federation I think it’d be a nice little boost for us.

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It’s also important to note that 0.19 has been a long time coming. I think part of the reticence to engage in full on Lemmy evangelism is that people recognize that the platform still needs work. Once everything starts working more smoothly and moderation tools get some upgrades, it’ll become a lot easier to recommend Lemmy to the average person.

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Try fiddling around with your language settings maybe? Sometimes the language filter can hide posts in a weird way.

Ultimately, if your only interest is in a handful of niche communities, then Lemmy isn’t quite there yet, I agree. I am also missing a bunch of niche communities, but I enjoy most of the popular content that’s on Lemmy anyhow, so I’m not too bothered by the loss of the niche stuff for now.

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in awe

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Cool stuff. I’m not one for microblogging but this could be very beneficial for growing niche communities here by taking advantage of Mastodon’s larger userbase. Thank you for continuing to build tools for the fediverse, @db0 🫡

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Also curious. I’d imagine the delays on Lemmy 0.19 have not helped the situation but it’d be nice to get an update.

What would your ideal social media platform look like?

The fediverse offers an exciting alternative to centralized social media silos like Twitter and Facebook. As someone passionate about the fediverse, I think a lot about what features would make up my perfect social media platform. I’m curious what ideas other fediverse users have!...

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I disagree. I believe the function of upvotes and downvotes is self-evident, and if you are unable to handle the emotional ramifications that come along with that, you are welcome to disable downvotes within your instance, like hexbear already does.

Voting is a core feature of reddit and Lemmy. If you remove that, you end up with an entirely different kind of social media site.

For the record, I upvoted you because you make a good point. Voting doesn’t have to be toxic if the userbase understands the etiquette.

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You make very good points. The beautiful thing about the fediverse is it doesn’t have to be all or nothing, different servers can try different solutions and mix and match whatever seems to be working best.

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Looks like the sysadmins are doing a pretty great job across the board. Proud of our figure also, although all credit obviously goes to TheDude.

Sh.itjust.works - Uptime badge of lemmings.world

You’re the best rikudou 🫡

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Really cool stuff. This is the kind of administrative superstructure that is necessary for Lemmy to really function as intended. Even as the federated structure provides more possibilities and opportunities, it also introduces added complexity and adversity. Fediseer seems like it has the potential to manage that additional complexity by distributing the labor required across many instances.

I’m eternally grateful for the work that you are putting in to build these tools.

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It looks like the majority of communities struggle with not enough content/discussions

This is true, but also subjective. How do you define enough? Enough to doomscroll or enough to check for 10 minutes daily? All we really need to be self sufficient is enough content to keep people coming back regularly, we don’t need to replicate reddit.

many de-facto are blogs of mods/creators where others are passive subscribers.

This seems like an exaggeration. Most communities that have quality content also have quality discussion, in my experience.

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For me the main criteria is: if I want to get an answer to a question, especially a non trivial one which is not releated to lemmy/fediverse - I should better go to reddit.

You’re not wrong, but I don’t see why Lemmy would want to replicate reddit in that respect. You don’t need to spend any time on reddit or even make an account to take advantage of that functionality. You just Google your question and add reddit to the end and voila.

Probably, can you give me example of such communities which are not about fedeverse, technology, foss or memes?

I also skipped the gaming and political communities because there is an absolute boatload of that content on Lemmy, as I’m sure you’re aware. These are some communities that I am subscribed to that jumped out as being fairly active.

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Were any of them new to you? Just wondering

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