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morrowind , to Linux in What’s new for Fedora Atomic Desktops in Fedora 40
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Link gives me a 404

boredsquirrel OP ,

Strange, maybe he is overhauling the post

boredsquirrel OP ,
e8d79 , to Linux in What’s new for Fedora Atomic Desktops in Fedora 40

I love to see the progress Fedora Atomic Desktops is making. I switched to Fedora Kinoite from Windows and it has been the most stable Linux experience I have ever had. Updating to Fedora 40 was as easy as checking out another git branch.
When I installed Linux I wasn't expecting to stay with it for very long because I had some bad experiences with it in the past. As of now, I haven't had the need to boot into Windows since switching to Fedora five months ago.

boredsquirrel OP ,

Actually recently I learned if you rebase to latest instead of 40 (at least if you are using OSTree native container images like ublue) you dont need to upgrade anymore, that is decided upstream.

Agree on the stability completely, distrohopped a ton before and everything just broke.

I am working on a CentOS Desktop image set currently, first time doing that but will be pretty cool. Atomic CentOS Stream, to have a superstable system.

offspec , to Linux in What’s new for Fedora Atomic Desktops in Fedora 40

A friend switched to Linux yesterday on a new build and grabbed the kde spin of fedora at my recommendation. Fedora 40 dropped x11 on kde so there's been a good bit more hassle getting things working than there should have been. Hopefully developers move fast on support.

boredsquirrel OP ,

What do you mean? Just use Wayland?

offspec ,

Discord screen share isn't working, I think screen recording wasn't working, she had some issues getting steam to not crash. We both use input leap at work so waiting until 6.1 for that support to hit. Just a bit annoying to get rug pulled. We both use fedora 38 on our work machines so there was an expectation that things would work the same, I think it's overall a good change in the long run, but in the moment it's very disruptive.

socialpankakemix ,

try vencord/vesktop it allows you to stream over discord on Wayland, plus a bunch of other stuff.

offspec ,

Yeah, I directed her to vesktop but lately the video streams on vesktop have been really choppy. I use it on arch to mixed results.

boredsquirrel OP ,

I think the end of the story is: fuck Discord.

Damn Signal Desktop has perfect screensharing on Wayland.

Mogster ,
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You probably know this already, but X11 hasn't been dropped completely. You can still install what you need from the distros, and then the X11 option will be present and correct in SDDM.

sudo dnf install kwin-x11 plasma-workspace-x11

offspec ,

Actually, I didn't know that and figured it out yesterday. Thanks for the tip!

Fizz , to Linux in What’s new for Fedora Atomic Desktops in Fedora 40
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Reading through that article I somehow ended up on the bazzite page and then went down a rabithole learning about the system76 scheduler. Just when I thought I'd settled down now I want to switch to bazzite to try out the system76 scheduler.

But I'm not sure what's better for overall performance. Bazzites modifications or glorious eggrolls modifications.

boredsquirrel OP ,

Yes thats difficult for sure. I would trust bazzite more, as the distribution model is way more stable.

warmaster ,

Performance wise, I doubt there's notable difference.

I've tried both, and honestly Bazzite OS is on a league of it's own.

Nobara has updates with breaking changes that require manual steps to avoid bricking your installation.

Bazzite on the other hand immutability makes it a freaking indestructible distro, and for a gaming machine, that is a good thing.

Bazzite's CI/CD automated builds helps them release upstream improvements way faster, for example... they are already on Fedora 40.

It also comes ready to go out of the box. The experience is amazing. The only drawback is having to reboot to apply changes to the system. But the many benefits outweight this inconvenience.

aleph ,
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Agreed. I was enthusiastic about Nobara all the way up until I had to do a version upgrade. If I had to start from scratch now, I'd go with Bazzite.

warmaster ,

The Bazzite installation is so streamlined, it would take you an hour to install and set it up to the point where you are now. Unless you did something extremely out of the ordinary.

aleph ,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

The installation is the easy part; first I have to back up all my configs. It's the media machine in the living room, though, so it's not super urgent.

Lichtblitz ,

When I installed Kinoite to start using Linux as my primary daily driver, the first thing I did was setting up Ansible, creating a new playbook and all Linux configurations I made from that point on, are only ever done through that playbook, which is backed up in my Forgejo instance. One command and everything is being set up exactly the way I want. It feels extremely liberating.

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Goddammit this all sounds so good. My final and most important question that decides if I switch. What does the neofetch icon look like?

Edit: I just looked myself and its a controller which looks cool but i don't really like controllers. 🤔 hard choice but I think I'll try it out.

warmaster ,

I haven't bothered with it, but Neofetch allows you to easily change the neofetch logo. neofetch --ascii_distro <distroname>

More here

https://blog.neerajadhav.in/how-to-change-the-ascii-logo-in-neofetch

themadcodger ,
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If you like the idea of Bazzite, but aren't a gamer, you could go with Bluefin or Aurora depending on your preference.

Railcar8095 ,

I use Bazzite for a mainly work, gaming sporadically machine and honestly, I don't know what changes bluefin might have that I'm missing. Leaner maybe? Even for a gaming centric distro, the looks are very good.

themadcodger ,
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If bazzite works for you, then good enough! Bazzite just comes with a lot more support for periphials that some might not need/want (e.g. vr headsets). So yeah, leaner. Or for that one poster, a neofetch icon that's not a gamepad?

Rustmilian ,
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boredsquirrel OP ,

Yes I think their scheduler is nice? I mean you can just layer and enable it on any variant. Checkout ublues files.

eveninghere , to Linux in What’s new for Fedora Atomic Desktops in Fedora 40

Well, I'm such an old ass for preferring X11 still, but fuck NVIDIA anyway.

boredsquirrel OP ,

NVIDIA and Wayland are supposedly fixed in recent releases with explicit sync

Inui ,

Not fully. The distro supports it and Gnome/KDE have done their patches, but we're still waiting for updated Nvidia drivers in May. Until then, I personally still tons of flickering.

lemmyreader , to Linux in What’s new for Fedora Atomic Desktops in Fedora 40

Nice read.Thanks.

dinckelman , to Linux in Fedora Kinoite Nightly available with Plasma 6 to test!

I got a stick with Neon unstable on it, and so far the experience is pretty damn good. Haven’t tried anything gaming related, but the shell itself is functioning really well. The only thing that’s straight up not working is Discover, but when did it, really

Pantherina OP ,

Its always changing. When I rebooted the VM into the nightly kinoite image it was completely messed up graphically. Lets see. Its alpha alpha

solariplex , to Linux in Fedora Kinoite Nightly available with Plasma 6 to test!

Niceeeee! I’ve tested a few KF6 apps in a rawhide+nightly copr distrobox on Kinoite, and they’re quick

conductor ,

What are the big changes from KDE 5 -> 6?

solariplex ,

Definitely the transition from QT5 to QT6. It Looks identical, but has better wayland support and performance.

There are also a few new and hot features which I can’t recount at the moment (it’s 4:30 in the morning), but the pointieststick blog should have the droids you’re searching for

magikmw , to Linux in [Fedora] Kinoite Nightly images with Plasma 6

TIL about kinoite, might be easier to jump from Fedora KDE than to NixOS I’ve been lazily testing.

Chewy7324 OP ,

For me most of my needs would be met by Fedora Kinoite and nix for cli tools in addition to distrobox. Auto updates and rollbacks work flawlessly.

The following nix installer has support for immutable distros like Kinoite (rpm-ostree) and SteamOS. [1]

[1] github.com/DeterminateSystems/nix-installer

Also, uBlue is based on Fedora rpm-ostree and allows for customizing the image with Containerfiles. [2]

[2] universal-blue.org

Strit , to Linux in [Fedora] Kinoite Nightly images with Plasma 6
@Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

Nice. I’ve been running Plasma 6 on my Arch test laptop. Not a huge visual difference, but it works fairly well.

Chewy7324 OP , (edited )

The most notable changes are probably HDR and color management, but most people can’t take advantage of it anyway. Although the list of changes includes many quality of life improvements like enabling tap to click by default.

community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_6

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