New users found it hard to download the right installer if they needed non-free firmware. Experienced users know they can add firmware=never in the installer to disable firmware lookup if they want. If they want to decide on a firmware by firmware basis, that's an option too. If the hardware doesn't need non-free firmware it's not installed.
I bet they considered the options. It could simply be that no one has had time to change the installer. It could also be that the people who care about free software to the degree that they want to avoid non-free firmware usually figure out how to do it, and that too many options confuse new users. I don't know. A feature request discussion in the appropriate mailing list could be a good idea if you want change.
Just got a steam deck and immediately checked out the desktop mode, and I was somewhat surprised to see KDE and pacman as opposed to GNOME and apt, I have nothing against the former though a strong preference for the latter, anyone know why Volvo went in this direction?
I was very upset when they released gnome 3. Suddenly things were different, and there were rough edges. I used XFCE for many years after that. But... I have come to appreciate it now. I like that the devs had their vision and didn't give in to all the demands to make it work differently. It's their project, and I can use it if I want, or not. I respect it the same way I respect OpenBSD doing their thing. Can you imagine demanding that the OpenBSD devs changed their vision due to popular opinions? "We want closed source nvidia drivers and bluetooth support!" They just tell people to use another OS then. But from that stubbornness something beautiful is created.
I'm genuinely worried sometimes that a Ken hack has been introduced. I don't know by who, but possibly some government agency. Then again, we also have a Minix system built into the CPU doing god knows what and we just accept that.
I'm working on a some materials for a class wherein I'll be teaching some young, wide-eyed Windows nerds about Linux and we're including a section we're calling "foot guns". Basically it's ways you might shoot yourself in the foot while meddling with your newfound Linux powers....
I wanted to try inserting and removing kernel modules, so I looked around and thought "well, I don't have a USB stick in right now so I can safely try removing the usb kernel module." So I did that, and after pressing enter I realized my keyboard is connected with USB.
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I use the Gnome document viewer, and every time I recompile it automatically refreshes and keeps position etc. I compile with $ luatex <myfile.tex>, not sure if that matters.
Oh yes, same for me if I'm positioning an image or making a table, I compile to double check every little edit to the code :) I just mostly have plain old text so no surprises.
I started with LaTeX back in the day, but it was too hacky and complex, so I went to ConTeXt, which felt more consistent and planned out. Then I did OpTeX for a while and eventually I picked up the TeXbook by Knuth and it all just started to make sense to me. So now I use plain TeX with my own macro file to fill the gaps in functionality, I implemented colour support and picture support and small macros that I needed. I am very much into grid typesetting, so I need to know where all the vertical material comes from. There are areas that still scare me, like modifying the output routine or several \expandafter in a row, but usually that's not needed. With plain TeX I can know every detail of the code down to the primitives. Of course this is possible in LaTeX too, but, there's just a lot of code, layer upon layer, and I'm not smart enough to keep all that in my head.
I often hear folks in the Linux community discussing their preference for Arch (and Linux in general) because they can install only the packages they want or need - no bloat....
Honest question, since it's been 12 years since I last used Arch: what can you configure in Arch that you can't configure in other distros? For example starting with a minimal Debian and building from that.
I see. Easier in what way? They all have fdisk and the same basic tools? Does Arch have other tools beyond that which are unique to Arch? Is there a difference how you configure a window manager on Arch and Debian?
That's a GPL point of view. Most BSD users I've talked to prefer a more permissive license. Theo said: "GPL fans said the great problem we would face is that companies would
take our BSD code, modify it, and not give back. Nope -- the great
problem we face is that people would wrap the GPL around our code, and
lock us out in the same way that these supposed companies would lock
us out. Just like the Linux community, we have many companies giving
us code back, all the time. But once the code is GPL'd, we cannot get
it back. Ironic."
Which is fine with for example OpenBSD, they write "ISC or Berkeley style licences are preferred, the GPL is not acceptable when adding new code, NDAs are never acceptable. We want to make available source code that anyone can use for ANY PURPOSE, with no restrictions. We strive to make our software robust and secure, and encourage companies to use whichever pieces they want to."
Doing better in what way? Number of installs or being robust and secure? If we go by numbers one could argue that Windows is doing best on the desktop, and that proprietary code therefore is something to strive for. Either way it's a tangent of the original statement, that the BSD license is a "pushover" license, which I oppose, because the BSD devs are deliberately allowing their code to be used by anyone for any reason.
There are options to start at any level you feel comfortable with. In the far end of not installing anything is Linux From Scratch. As the name implies, you start from nothing. I don't recommend this unless you have specific reasons. If you want a small command line only system to start from there's plenty of those, many distros offer this choice. Arch, Debian, etc.
For example, I'm using Debian, and I think we could learn a thing or two from Mint about how to make it "friendlier" for new users. I often see Mint recommended to new users, but rarely Debian, which has a goal to be "the universal operating system"....
For me it's mostly that the site sprawls in unintuitive ways. It's possible to have a simple look while being easy to navigate, for example (and this is subjective, but still) https://www.openbsd.org/
Would it detract from Debian if it had an installer which was more intuitive to new users? As long as they don't remove the options to configure, I see no harm, only benefits. To me, the thing about Debian is that it's a community. If a distro wants to be elitistic, sure, that's up to them, but I don't see Debian having that goal.
I like that Spiral Linux is "plain" Debian, without extra repos. What I'm thinking is more along the lines of "why is Spiral Linux needed to begin with?" Sometimes downstream distros serve a niche function that warrants its own distribution, but sometimes I feel that if upstream improved, the need wouldn't be there to begin with.
I don't know. It's difficult for me to answer because I'm so used to the Debian installer. But, for some reason the general opinion is that it's difficult for many compared to some other distros.
I think text based interfaces is a strength of unix-like systems, valuable tools to be used when the situation calls for it. It might be a lot to ask of new users to be familiar with terminals before they have even installed the system though. If Mint can get the same result with a GUI, I see no reason why Debian can't offer that option too, and let users discover bash and TUI when they have a working system.
I agree that there is beauty in simplicity. In my opinion, OpenBSD has the best website.
It's not about using fancy effects, it's about the sprawling logical layout and making it hard to navigate. It used to be better around 2005, when it had the left navigation index. I remember people said it was ugly then, but imho they changed the wrong aspects of it, removing the structure without adding simplicity.
For example, a new user reading this page https://l10n.debian.org/ will be confused. It only makes sense to me since I've already translated a bunch of debconf-po-files. These are my opinions, but you are welcome to disagree. Also, please don't hit people with rolled up newspapers, it's rude.
When the xz backdoor was discovered, I quickly uninstalled my Arch based setup with an infected version of the software and switched to a distro that shipped an older version (5.5 or 5.4 or something). I found an article which said that in 5.6.1-3 the backdoor was "fixed" by just not letting the malware part communicating with...
This is the reason I keep an OpenBSD system around. Maybe it's a false sense of security, but I feel that they are pickier about the base system at least.
Right now, I'm feeling concerned and wondering what is going on in regards to Sublinks here, since I have created a community for discussion on koalas about a week ago on here and have started and been doing work on it recently. But now I'm hearing about Sublinks and feeling concerned if I created it on the wrong instance or the...
I'm trying to understand the Flatpak model here, so if Flatpak installs sandboxed libraries, does that mean that all programs on Flathub are compiled against the same "base" runtime? Theoretically, if I had 10 flatpaks installed, could they pull in 10 different runtimes? It seems like this could get out of hand. Iirc, Fedora has their own runtime for their own flatpaks, tied to the version. (A runtime for Fedora 39, another for 40, etc?) In that case, is the idea to have one (traditional) set of libraries for the base OS, and another (runtime) set of libraries for user applications? Could it come full circle so that the base OS is relying on the same libraries as provided by the runtime? I am somewhat confused...
Maybe some inspiration from how OpenBSD handles users requesting features.
"No one deserves anything from us. /../ The developers in this project do the best they can"
or
"If you expected any of us to reply as if we are contractors or your employees, you came to the wrong place."
Hello, for a few days I have been looking at how to make a git repository to store a free font so that everyone can use it, modify it and redistribute it, the thing is that many have different ways of distributing the source code, and it is not very clear how. Do it in a way that is similar to an open source program. The...
EBGaramond (original Duffner version) was made with fontforge and is on github. He only keeps the source and related files on github with instructions how to generate the otfs etc. https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond
I am from india. These numbers are inflated due to our population and government and health sector office pc using linux (ubuntu). These office pcs just require a chrome browser and all the work is done on the browser Nobody here cares what os they use in their office pc. I don't see anyone here switching to linux on their...
I think it's a win. For most people the computer is a tool to look up information and communicate, etc. If they can do that with free software, we all benefit, even if they don't fall down the rabbit hole and spend endless nights configuring tiling window managers and arguing about vi vs emacs.
Lately I've felt an itch to put together a manual for these people, a sort of "Linux for people who don't really care about Linux"-manual. The problem I guess is that they are not likely to seek out a manual to begin with.
There might be a significant number of users here waiting for everyone else to switch over to lemmy. If you start a niche community, it's a little easier for someone else to be like "It's kind of empty, but it exists on lemmy too." What you need is a critical mass of people. It usually takes time and effort to reach that, and someone must be first.
It didn't happen in one big exodus, no. But maybe in the future someone will find those old posts and decide to make a new post instead of just concluding there's nothing and not doing anything.
Would you say that RH makes more sense than Debian? If so, in which ways? I"ve been using Debian for the last 10 years, so it feels like home to me too, but recently I've been curious about other distros.
It's probably been 15 years since I've used Linux and Mint seems to be the recommended distro for people who aren't all that familiar with Linux like me, but I didn't know if there was anything I should know with this ThinkPad model that anyone is familiar with. My searching around shows people saying everything from it was...
Does it have dual batteries? My t470s does a hard shutdown instead of switching battery source when the first battery is empty sometimes. It's an old bug and I think the consensus is that no one is really sure why.
No, both work, it's the switching over that often does a hard shutdown. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/upower/upower/-/issues/62
I'm using the latest Lenovo firmware and have the same issue in any Linux version I've tried. Bad luck I guess, but I'm out of ideas.
Systemd Looks to Replace sudo with run0 ( news.itsfoss.com )
General Availability of AlmaLinux 9.4 Stable! ( almalinux.org )
Does anyone know why SteamOS is based on arch rather than Debian?
Just got a steam deck and immediately checked out the desktop mode, and I was somewhat surprised to see KDE and pacman as opposed to GNOME and apt, I have nothing against the former though a strong preference for the latter, anyone know why Volvo went in this direction?
If all kernel bugs are security bugs, how do you keep your Linux safe? ( www.zdnet.com )
What're some of the dumbest things you've done to yourself in Linux?
I'm working on a some materials for a class wherein I'll be teaching some young, wide-eyed Windows nerds about Linux and we're including a section we're calling "foot guns". Basically it's ways you might shoot yourself in the foot while meddling with your newfound Linux powers....
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When do you consider a system to be bloated?
I often hear folks in the Linux community discussing their preference for Arch (and Linux in general) because they can install only the packages they want or need - no bloat....
Debian spices up APT package manager with a dash of color ( www.theregister.com )
Is there a list of games that run smoothly on Linux without native support?
I haven't made the switch yet, and I want to know if Linux can run my favorite games.
Stable Diffusion 3 API Now Available — Stability AI ( stability.ai )
What distro he uses? 🐧💻 ( lemmy.ml )
With ou without desktop env?
Do I need to install the desktop env when installing a distro or do I need to install blank Linux and install a clean desktop env later?...
What we need to take away from the XZ Backdoor (openSUSE News) ( news.opensuse.org )
Noob Question Thread: Ask Any Questions About Linux!
I thought I'll make this thread for all of you out there who have questions but are afraid to ask them. This is your chance!...
What could your distro learn from another distro?
For example, I'm using Debian, and I think we could learn a thing or two from Mint about how to make it "friendlier" for new users. I often see Mint recommended to new users, but rarely Debian, which has a goal to be "the universal operating system"....
Developer Explains Why Explicit Sync Will Finally Solve the NVIDIA/Wayland Issues ( 9to5linux.com )
Is xz 5.6.1-3+ still dangerous?
When the xz backdoor was discovered, I quickly uninstalled my Arch based setup with an infected version of the software and switched to a distro that shipped an older version (5.5 or 5.4 or something). I found an article which said that in 5.6.1-3 the backdoor was "fixed" by just not letting the malware part communicating with...
Regarding sublinks and feeling concerned about what is going on with it ( lemmy.world )
Right now, I'm feeling concerned and wondering what is going on in regards to Sublinks here, since I have created a community for discussion on koalas about a week ago on here and have started and been doing work on it recently. But now I'm hearing about Sublinks and feeling concerned if I created it on the wrong instance or the...
Team-Kodi PPA officially retired, switches to Flatpak ( kodi.tv )
The Other Players Who Helped (Almost) Make the World’s Biggest Backdoor Hack ( theintercept.com )
Same story, but this one adds some more details and other links.
Bullying in Open Source Software Is a Massive Security Vulnerability ( www.404media.co )
Flathub now marks unverified apps ( lemmy.ml )
How to distribute an open source font in a git repository?
Hello, for a few days I have been looking at how to make a git repository to store a free font so that everyone can use it, modify it and redistribute it, the thing is that many have different ways of distributing the source code, and it is not very clear how. Do it in a way that is similar to an open source program. The...
The truth about linux having 15% market share in India.
I am from india. These numbers are inflated due to our population and government and health sector office pc using linux (ubuntu). These office pcs just require a chrome browser and all the work is done on the browser Nobody here cares what os they use in their office pc. I don't see anyone here switching to linux on their...
Lemmy Active Users looking good ( discuss.tchncs.de )
Source: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
KDE neon 6 Distro Now Available with the KDE Plasma 6 Desktop Environment - 9to5Linux ( 9to5linux.com )
I'm curious how the community feels about KDE neon.
I'm relatively unfamiliar with Linux. I'm getting a ThinkPad T460 and want to install Mint on it. Is there anything about the T460 I should know?
It's probably been 15 years since I've used Linux and Mint seems to be the recommended distro for people who aren't all that familiar with Linux like me, but I didn't know if there was anything I should know with this ThinkPad model that anyone is familiar with. My searching around shows people saying everything from it was...