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Seems like it would be good to request Discourse and NodeBB to offer similar features

Are there any innovative platforms in the Fediverse?

I've explored a few platforms within the Fediverse, but most of them seem to be inspired by and mimic existing mainstream social media platforms like Twitter, Reddit, and Facebook. While this familiarity can be comforting, I can't help but wonder if there are any truly innovative and original platforms out there that offer a...

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Not really. You can utilise a Mastodon client that allows you to subscribe to remote instances. Another option is to utilise a relay and subscribe to an instance

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I don’t understand. What data do you mean for an instance?

The need for a Fedi Union.

tl;dr I propose a Fedi Union consisting of the developers of Phanpy, Pixelfed, Peertube, Lemmy, and PieFed. That will work as a way to fund all of the services collectively (with the option to still go to their individual patreons and fund them seperately) and as a way for them to communicate to help all the services be more...

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Why is it a nuisance for some? They could defederate from Mastodon.social and Mastodon.online. This place is supposed to be about freedom & choice. People can use different software, move to a different instance so I’m confused at the hostility toward Eugen.

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Interesting to see your comment about Mastodon EEE ActivityPub. I would love to know more about your thoughts. It’s funny to see people worried about Threads making breaking changes yet Mastodon has done it from the beginning. Look at recently with the quote post situation, Misskey has had them forever, Threads used Misskey implementation and an FEP, Mastodon announced yesterday they got a grant for quote posts. They are doing their own thing yet again

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Really enjoyed your blogpost. Would love to connect with you. This framework utilises C2S spec and resolves some of the issues with the spec https://github.com/assemblee-virtuelle/activitypods

https://activitypods.org/

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Curious as to why your comment got downvoted. Are people saying dictatorships aren’t bad?

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You mean the same illusion of decentralisation that the fedi offers? Where AP is largely mastodon centric and identity is tethered to an instance? Where a user is at the whims of an admin? With the networks being so small those admins have more of an impact on everyday users than Musk.
They’re not hand waving moderation. They have a Trust and Safety team, third party, custom feeds, all of the same user level controls any social platform has and goes above that with their labelling system. Especially, when it comes to illegal content they’re in better position to protect their teams and users than fedi, which directly exposes admins/mods to harm and has no resources to help their mental health.
You called others indoctrinated but that’s how you come across and spewing fallacies

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My take is that they wanted to do things differently after extensive research. People here get their panties in a bunch but they talked about why, it’s as much culturally as it was technically.
They wanted to mirror a more web like experience and some of the experiences mirrored on Big Social platforms. It makes sense to not tether user identities to instances, that’s not real freedom, especially when data portability is poor and there’s not true account migration on fedi.
Fedi doesn’t really empower the individual and many people are oddly critical of Bluesky individualism, yet that’s how the dominant online experience is and more so mirrors real life. People come from Big Social platforms that are driven by their individual experiences so their transition to Bluesky is more natural than it would be on Mastodon. In neither place do you have people telling people how to use their own damn accounts! But, that happens on Mastodon
Overall, they have some cool ideas and concepts, I’m happy to see any ideas and spaces that lessen the strong armed centralised grip of Big Social.

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The Fediverse was created for connectivity and relationships that are yours not being owned by Big Social. It wasn’t created as some privacy preserving and secure platform, people on Mastodon have pushed that but the spec is not fundamentally built on those things nor have any of the founders of the fedi ever really pushed that.

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Provide proof! I call BS. I see why more anti-Meta posts and pushing it on people. Anywhere here can search and you’ll find it. It dominates any conversations about Meta

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That doesn’t make much sense, doing their own thing is a centralized way of thinking ? Like people had to build ActivityPub. Also, she explained the cultural aspect of why they didn’t. They got paid to research and do work for a protocol and platform people would use. They heavily looked into AP and felt it didn’t suit their needs especially culturally . Also, just out of some weird principle people hate Jack Dorsey and since he’s associated would’ve not used Bluesky, they didn’t get paid to build things people wouldn’t use. Technology filled with standards and protocols of people “reinventing the wheel” sometimes for really trivial issues they had with some tech.

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You have all of the answers. I look forward to the Threadiverse conference you put together

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There’s a lot of misinformation in your post. There’s not single pod provider. It does what it states it does. A platform/client needs to build on top of it. It doesn’t hurt to ask questions. It also doesn’t hurt to state that you don’t understand as opposed to making matter of fact statements and be wrong.

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You don’t need to be qualified but also not a need to spread false information. That’s weird and Twitter behaviour. You could’ve asked questions. You could’ve said “ I may be wrong…” The project is new. There is a single provider due to that reason alone. Once adopted there will be more providers.

Legal Liabilities

If you are an admin and or instance operator are you protecting yourself legally? A great deal of people have simply spun up instances and treat them like Discord servers and subreddits, but Discord and Reddit are the ones that assume legal liability. Here are some good reads to assist by lawyers and experts that are on the fedi...

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That’s your opinion but both reports are by lawyers and orgs that have a presence on the fediverse be it accounts and or hosting their own instances. I’m sure they’re aware of what they’re talking about.

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That’s old data. Threads suffered for a month but was fine. This is more recent. 141 million MAU https://famewall.io/statistics/threads-stats/

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That’s where my frustrations with “consent fedi” come into play. They want to force people to comply with their views. They could go into allow list federation and connect with those that views thing similarly yet they don’t.

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Well, it could launch on one platform first, doesn’t mean it’s only going to be for one platform.

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lol I respect the transparency

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This asks zero sense as there’s n disclosure on hardly any instance. Also, there’s several non ActivityPub protocols and bridges that have long since been used and peoples content shared

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Mastodon and many others do not “properly” implement ActivityPub and have a ton of their own extensions and implementations

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Not true. You’re pushing content to Diaspora, hubzilla, PubCrawl, Streams and many other protocols that are bridged to ActivityPub

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Let me ask you this. Tell me what companies and what countries pass this purity test? Where is the line drawn? If someone spends money on leisure in the states for example, are they supporting racism, transphobia etc due to their moneys going to states like Florida, Texas etc?
What about people that buy video games even though companies are known to work their employees into depression and have harmful ethics regarding female employees with sexual harassment? Are people that buy games endorsing that culture? How should those victims view fans that continue to make those companies money? What about companies that outsource their manufacturing processes to China? Some companies have put suicide nets to prevent employees from unaliving themselves. Many companies use China for manufacturing. By purchasing products are we endorsing that culture that has led to people taking their own lives?

I love Mastodon and ActivityPub. But I think Nostr is going to win. Here's why.

Mastodon is a great platform. I have an account there, and I have been using it as a twitter replacement for several months. I have been using nostr for around two months. I have also read fairly deeply into how Mastodon and Nostr work. I think nostr is better. Here's why....

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That’s not true. Bigots can go into web view and still see posts, they have alts on other instances. I’ve literally had friends that this happened to on Mastodon and the perp was making posts about still being able to see their content even while blocked. You run AP, it is not a secure protocol it was never intended to be.

What Meta’s Fediverse Plans Mean for Threads Users ( www.wired.com )

Meta is treading carefully, doing a phased implementation while continuing conversations with Fediverse leaders. This will give the company more time to iron out some of the integration kinks. “Do we adapt the protocol to be able to support this?” Lambert asks. “Or do we try to do some kind of interesting, unique...

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This is an odd take and not even close. It is in fact the Fediverse that would be more harmful. Meta has laws and government scrutiny. There’s a lot of willing filth on the Fediverse. Blocking instances more so became a think the last 1-2 years. Blocking those instances does not mean they don’t exist. Can you find harmful content on Meta’s platform? Sure but that’s mostly due to volume. Where as there’s Fediverse instances straight up for illegal and gross content

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Yeah, people don’t really care about decentralisation nor federation. People want an easy experience where everyone is

The main feature i would like to see on Lemmy

Im pretty satisfied with Lemmy, but one thing i wish you could do is browse instances. Like i wish there was a way i could almost emulate being on my programming.dev account and see all that instances communities while im logged into this account. Afaik theres no easy way to do that without visiting some aggregator website. It...

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AP did not tie it to an instance. It left it up to clients and platforms. Mastodon tied identity to instances

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Bluesky will be opening up Federation this year. There are a lot of Fedi devs that are also working with Bluesky’s Atproto. The podcast and site is not only about the Fediverse but the social web.

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The app also supports Bluesky and the interview is with the developer of SoraSns. That is why Bluesky is mentioned

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Yeah, I truly enjoy Feeeed. It’s cool. There was one that a Fedi dev had but unfortunately I don’t think he’s working on it anymore and it’s no longer available

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I used Flipboard back in its early days. I would love to hear about your experience

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This has a lot of nonsense. It gives too much credit while vague regarding LLaMA2. It failed to mention a lot of Open Source work Meta has done lately. It was only from a US point of view and not how the EU has been a thorn in Big Tech’s side. Mastodon has 1.6 MAU and many users have multiple accounts. Mastodon is too small for Meta to care about. Those startups Meta squashed were doing innovative things Meta never seen applied before. When it purchased Instagram and WhatsApp there were many millions of active users. Meta as was many Big Tech companies a part of the W3C when AP was being planned and backed out. The Fediverse is about as old as Facebook so Meta has seen this before, Mastodon hasn’t done anything new on this front. Outside of that there are some interesting considerations

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It’s refreshing how honest you are and I like the ideas you have. You’re right people use what will benefit them most and not cause too much hassle

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Yes, but your response is misleading it insinuates that we have ways to keep those people off of the Fediverse and we don’t. It’s not possible, all of the kinds of people you’re saying he wants on the Fediverse are already on the Fediverse. Also, small doesn’t equal safer, the Fediverse has been small until last year and for years minorities have dealt with racism and harassment. What he said is ultimately right, we need to make the tools. With better tools people can largely have their preferred experiences, it doesn’t have to be an either or situation.

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OANN and Gab are one example of a back down. What about the child porn instances? They are still on the Fediverse, they’re just blocked by lots of instances. Using Gab provides a false sense of safety to people.

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