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veniasilente ,

IANAL and all the other anals, but my understanding is Signal wouldn't be liable and wouldn't have to do anything. They designed their service so they can't know the content of the messages, so if a third party Maloyse (see what I'm doing there?) is reporting a message between Alice and Bob that Maloyse thinks to be illegal, Signal would be within legal grounds to bring into question how did M got that message, and it can't be used as proof against Signal because there is no legal mechanism by which Signal could have acquired that message and act upon it - in fact, Signal has grounds to suspect Maloyse is crafting those messages, since neither Alice nor Bob have reported such message.

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veniasilente ,

Maloyse absolutely can:

  • eavesdrop above Alice's shoulder
  • be an evil, militarily dressed maid on Bob Alice's home
  • have remote administrative permissions on Bob's phone
  • ("accidentally") get a full-workspace snapshot of Charlie's desktop while he has the group open in Signal Desktop
  • Sneak around and check the phone while Alice and Donny are having sex
  • Hit Charlie with a $5 wrench
veniasilente ,

Which one is harder has zero relevance upon how much work Signal has to do to vet the contents transmitted on the channels, which is zero, nil, because they can't. Even if it was Charlie who reported the channel, Signal intentionally has no practical means to verify neither the accused contents nor the authenticity of the report. And this is actually good.

Infrastructure-wise, Signal (mostly) limits itself to only being a carrier. In a just world, a carrier who has been set up to take the limited responsibility of a carrier is not liable for the contents of carried things that are protected so that the carrier can not peek into. Sure, they can be legally pressed to change that and "upgrade" their lawyer plan to "content vetter", but as far as I know that hasn't happened yet.

veniasilente ,

But once they are made aware, the legal system considers them to now bear responsibility if they don’t take action.

And the action Signal can take is pretty clear: "Okay thanks for reporting, feel free to file a lawsuit against Alice and or Bob instead, have a nice day." Remember: even if Signal had Charlie's credentials to view the chat, unless Charlie is an admin of the chat Signal can't do anything other than log Charlie off the group. Plus each participant still has their own message store. So by this point Signal has complied with the law. It's literally Section 230.

veniasilente ,

, you should take a helicopter view and see that a punch, will lead to counter punches, which will lead to potentially full blown civil war.

You got that wrong. Nazis are already being violent; punching a nazi is not starting violence, it's a defensive measure, it's a response to violence. But sure if your response to violence is "let's sit with the nazis and make a nazi bar" then sure, you do you.

veniasilente ,

The problem is, I use far more sites than Youtube, and the other filter lists are needed here. AFAIK I haven't been able to find a switch on uBO that makes a site use only a specific set of filters, so if I want good internet experience it has to be the default filters and some more, or nothing.

PSA: If you're going to write software for piracy, put it on I2P! ( geti2p.net )

movie-web was just taken down with all its repos, Yuzu was taken down, then suyu forked it on gitlab and was taken down, countless clones of nintendo games, platform emulators, and a bunch of other things are taken down because they are hosted on the clear web....

veniasilente ,

Ah yes. Forgejo is the current community fork.

veniasilente ,

Someone has to fight that fight, because it is about IA's primary mission as well. And guess what? I don't see you doing it.

Would you teach your kids how to pirate?

My gf and I have had discussions about teaching morals to kids. In that vein, I asked myself, would I teach piracy to my kids? Yes, it’s technically illegal and carries inherent risks. But so does teenage sex carry the risks of teenage pregnancy, and so we have an obligation to children to teach them how to practice safe sex....

veniasilente ,

mods where is the "upvote twice" button?

veniasilente OP ,

Wow you have given me good things to think about. At first I was thinking I'd want solely text, but now I'm thinking what I'd want would be something closer to hypertext / Rich Text since that's how the content shows in sites already. So something like a "HTML pastebin" or somesuch would work, I guess?

(HedgeDoc looks interesting, am going to look around for a demo)

veniasilente OP ,

That's a lot of info to work with, thanks! Seems there has been a lot of thought and deelopment about this and I just basically didn't know exactly what to search for.

Explicitly mention Twitter, Facebook, is an advancement. Let's see if they have some utility or strategy for Discord-style short snippets.

veniasilente OP ,

Fun that you mention that, I happen to run my personal site, as well as another wiki for my Pokémon-related fanwork, and an internal kb wiki on my job, all on Dokuwiki. Used to advertise the engine more on Reddit back in the day, too. And sure it's quite lightweight and operable (I can edit articles remotely, manage remotely and do lots of cool stuff). Its just, from my experience so far, while it's extremely well-suited for the workflow of a wiki, it's not so much for the "post-it note" workflow, not even with additions like the Blog plugin.

Perhaps I have to yet tune it further. I guess it's time to Do Science.

veniasilente OP ,

Yeah honestly sometimes Dokuwiki feels like it's the Konami cheat code for "simple good personal website". I'm like, why would anyone bother with stuff like, dunno, Wordpress, or Github Pages.

My hoster has been so nice to get me access to the docker on-site, so I'm gonna be testing stuff for a few days. I can't take a look at logseq until the weekend alas, due to work suddenly being work.

veniasilente OP ,

So I'm running a Hedgedoc instance this week to test how things are going. Feels like one of the better choices.

veniasilente OP ,

At the moment I'm testing Hedgedoc, I took a quickie look at haste-server but from what I read it got enshittified a while ago while I was busy not looking at it lol. Anyway I've looked at other alternatives from the link and from selfhosting communities and both OpenGist and ExBin are looking at the things for me to try next for comparison. Thanks for the guidance!

veniasilente ,

You can blame both corporations, you don't need to suck any corpo cock. Nintendo sends the takedowns in the first place, which sure is Nintendon't, and Discord heeds them despite otherwise profiting from those communities and without allowing any sort of measure.

veniasilente ,

Not to mention Discord is not forced to take communities down. There's lots of stuff like right wing nutjob communities that are still up no issues. Discord is just sucking Nintendo dick, just like the communities that host solely on Discord are sucking Discord cock.

veniasilente ,

In order to make it into a Discord or Zoom competitor you would need to solve far higher bandwidth things like HD video and low latency audio, and both of thouse are fundamentally very different things for a server to handle as compared to high latency short text messages.

That falls into the same two fallacies as the ones of complainers against Youtube alternatives:

  • that in order to offer an alternative to a service you have to replicate all of it
  • that you have to provide an alternative to only one service

Like, really, you don't need to replace all of Discord, only the parts that matter. The alternative to build not to Discord but to "Discord is being used for documentation" already exists, it's called web forums. Ditto, the alternative to "Discord is being used for communities" also exists, it's called XMPP or IRC or Matrix depending on who you ask. The alternative to "Discord tracks user data" is simply called "you don't do it", etc.

Like, we are literally on Lemmy. Just about the first thing that we Get It from the internet is that centralization is bad, be it Products or Services.

veniasilente ,

See, it's the entire premise that voice conferencing is needed to have a replacement for "Discord is used for documentation". It's not. Almost by definition. If anyone wants videoconferencing there's Jitsi. That's the thing I'm aiming to: you won't ever to get anyone to "replace" Discord if they have to replace all of it. Capitalism doesn't allow for that. We are trying to do better here. Splitting problems into their component and significative parts makes them much easier to solve.

The closest use case that in the case of these kinds of communities would even need videoconferencing would be something like "Discord is being used for live tech support for modchipping Switches" and for that case there's also already established alternatives... and it would be wise to not implement for that anyway.

veniasilente ,

Any contract is legally binding

Exactly. And a TOS is not a contract.

If you go to law definitions, contracts have a number of requirements to be such, of which to my knowledge a TOS fails two (Negotiability and Certainty).

veniasilente ,

Negotiability, or more precisely offer and acceptance, are achieved by the simple “take it or leave it”.

Maybe in the US, where that kind of this would honestly be expected. Here in more decent countries, Negotiability requires that both parties can exercise offer an acceptance to the contract. I consulted to our local digital ethics group about it and they are in accordance, at least to what pertains to my country.

Appreciation post for db0 admins in light of .world blocking /c/ piracy and similar /c/'s .

I understand why they did what they did and it makes me think of how db0 and other admins are saying fuck all and taking a very big liability for making and supporting a free internet and i want to say all the work you do is very much appreciated. Also shoutout to lemmy.ml admins for running a similar community on their own ....

veniasilente ,

Shipping has gotten weird these days. I knew there was countries-as-waifus (Hetalia et al) but never expected now instances-as-waifus so as to see lemons of.

veniasilente ,

Or just keep using the FOSS versions. These license changes by definition can not be retroactive.

veniasilente ,

Sure, but in the meantime until a new fork emerges as the spiritual carry-on, you can just freeze the latest good version on your docker-compose and carry on.

veniasilente ,

, but the fonts are a factor.

I'm not sure if the possibility is there depending on your use case (eg.: you are exporting the fonts) nor if the cost of doing it would be worth the shot, but you can send minified versions variants of fonts, too.

veniasilente ,

I was hoping here their answer was something like "feel free to contact our attorney, Cory Doctorow, and his legal team at the UN". Oh well, a free mind can wish.

veniasilente ,

I get that people want a "simple way to chat" and Discord does that well, I guess. I mean, everyone's talking about the forum aspect but what's the alternative for chat? Mumble?

Just, please, don't hide documentation in the Discord. A neocities page costs literally $0. Please. Think of the poor SEO consultants!

veniasilente ,

I'm probably way out of the loop but from the perspective of devs getting to contribute, don't stuff like Discourse ship with "login with your Github account" already? Or Google, or Facebook, or...

Also, please, it's 1 click nowadays to make your browser remember your logins for you, if it comes down to laziness

veniasilente ,

Servers & clients use too many resources.

Didn't XMPP solve that in, like, 1999?

(Really, what is with devs and nu-protocols these days? Back in my days you could run a webhost on a potato)

veniasilente ,

I think you meant XMPP?

veniasilente ,

I mean, it hopefully wasn't, it's a much lighter, simpler and more efficient protocol and seems to stand as a perfect middle ground between IRC and nu-protocols.

veniasilente ,

Not without the machineguns.

veniasilente ,

Nintendon't: sues for "facilitating piracy"

Also Nintendon't: facilitates piracy by restricting access to games people want to play

Also Nintendon't: facilitates piracy by pointing people to Yuzu

Also Nintendon't: facilitates piracy by hinting that "free" access to games might be at risk

Also Nintendon't:

veniasilente ,

Not if you fork locally or outside Github.

Surprise! Yes, there's lots more Git outside Github. As one commenter said, Github is to Git what Pornhub is to porn.

veniasilente ,

Ever heard of a small indie company called Valve?

veniasilente ,

There’s a core disagreement about whether making a public post means consenting to it being used for all purposes without consent

Wouldn't this better be served by implementing per-post licensing, rather than mixing federation into it? After all, most of the real issue is people not accepting the fact that, regardless of federation, bad actors can do bad things with their content. Federation is not gonna change that, but at least licensing posts would allow you a legal avenue to pursue, which currently doesn't seem to exist.

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veniasilente ,

inb4 "buT M0zILlA sHouLd fOCuS oNlY iN ThE brOWsEr!!!1111"

Also:

$8.99, which is effectively $9, which is effectively $10

At that price it better all of it goes to the effort and not of it to the CEO.

veniasilente ,

Geocities. Geocities still lives on.

All that post needs to be truly complete is some marquee or blink.

veniasilente ,

Or you could just set the "mic" to blast some good ol' Rick Astley.

veniasilente ,

Is there a way to protect data/user contents in Lemmy/Mastodon against now rapidly rising AI s?

yes:

Don't publish it there. It's that simple.

veniasilente ,

The fact that we don't merge them is one of the great benefits of the Fediverse, actually.

veniasilente ,

No its the greatest weakness of the Fediverse.

By grouping them you could be on multiple

And sure, we can group them, link them, publish them in podcasts, whatever; but you specifically said merging them which involves only letting one of them exist. I've seen a couple good analyses on the issues with trying to artificially merge communities or limit creation of them, such as the points from this.

veniasilente ,

He is the nerdiest nerd ever. That’s why he’s long seen what is going on and has been trying to save us.

veniasilente ,

I really don’t understand what’s wrong with people not “curing all illness and disability with magic™” in a world where magic exists and is a thing.

See, in most such fantasy settings, magic not only exists but it has an attitude. Sometimes, a conscience, and not a very ethically nice one (if it allows for eg.: necromancy!). Sometimes, magic even is a god (or gods). Even if they aren’t, the people who use magic are still ultimately humans (with leafy ears etc but still ultimately humans with costumes, at worst) driven by greed, envy or a weird righteous idea of how should a woman dress and behave when in public.

Would you trust some rando nutjob, who claims to speak for Evelok the Eternal Coffee Mug of Satisfaction, to up and magically conjure you new eyes, new arms, whatever? To alter your body to such a fundamental level? Normal people in such settings are already afraid to death of werewolves and those are quite normal things. Compare: even in our magicless, relatively normal world, we have the power and the money to cure most illness and to treat disabled people adequately yet Obamacare is not universal and we can not trust that the people who give people implants and prosthetics haven’t backdoored them to force those disabled people into corporate servitude.

Your player party may be the goodest bois, but they’re only one. The various guilds and churches around quite likely aren’t such goodies on aggregate either, or else there would simply be no plot.

veniasilente ,

I agree. It’s just that I’ve seen that angle tackled already by people who can express it much better than I can, so I went for a vector that I saw unexplored. Like, what happens if in a fantasy world magic itself doesn’t want to cure people?

It's funny how google pretends the music on YouTube isn't straight up piracy and everyone just goes along with it

Most people have extremely weird ideas of what’s considered piracy and what isn’t. Downloading a video game rom is piracy, but if you pay money to some Chinese retailer for an SD card containing the roms, that’s somehow not piracy. Exploiting the free trial on a streaming site by using prepaid visa cards is somehow not...

veniasilente ,

What’s your beef with the tagginator bot? It’s certainly better than the reddit repost bots, right?

veniasilente ,

They are Pokémon fandom specific ones so they’re really kind of niche-within-a-niche: @fakemon and @PokemonFanfiction . I started both when the Reddit migrations started so that people could see a landing spot and start activity, but as far as I’ve noticed none has grabbed.

Been also thinking of starting up their lemmy equivalents for discoverability. But ATM I myself have nothing to add to them other than (for the most part) Reddit reposts, so I’d rather see activity from other people first. Like I said: I’m interested in the community, not in the moderation.

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