SuperSpecialNickname ,

This might be a bit off topic but I hate how you can't dismiss these kind of messages and be done with them, instead you have confirmation or remind me later. They just keep pestering you and I find that insulting. The same thing with Google play pass whenever I install something, that damn popup keeps coming back.

jol ,

The desperation. UPGRADE TO 11. ALSO USE BING. AND EDGE. COPILOT TOO PLS.

VanHalbgott ,

What’s wrong with Windows 10?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The ads

funky_rodent ,
@funky_rodent@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Well sadly my laptop is not supported for update 🤷

I'll wait for it to day and get a proper Linux supported device:)

Till then, I'll fly my w10

NauticalNoodle ,

IMO it's their loss.

eugenia ,
@eugenia@lemmy.ml avatar

What exactly is not supported on linux?

wuphysics87 ,

If it is like mine, it's the update itself. It says something like hardware not supported and gives you a big ol' Fuck You

funky_rodent ,
@funky_rodent@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Wicked processor freezing while switching into power saving (idle cpu-modes) modes, workes fine if I disable these, but then it's always on full power

Have tried a lot, is a pain

Grant_M ,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

Upgrade to Linux! :D

laurelraven ,

That's what i did and with very few issues (especially compared to what i had with Windows) I've not regretted it at all

AlexWIWA ,

They could convince me to update by making windows 11 not suck.

n3m37h ,

By reworking windows 7 to work with new hardware

AlexWIWA ,

God I'd cry if I could get windows 7 supported again

wuphysics87 ,

You could probably install linux bare metal on your computer, and daily drive windows 7 in a vm. Good luck getting compatible software anymore, but if you can, create an image and you are set for the foreseeable future

AlexWIWA ,

Actually not a bad idea. A lot of games I play actually run better on 7 than on 10.

Or I could reskin mint to be Windows Aero

Secret300 ,

Every pop up just convinced me to switch to Linux lol

AlexWIWA ,

Same. My next build will be Linux. Just distro shopping right now.

Secret300 ,

Haha felt that. I jumped from distro to distro constantly then finally settled in fedora after trying it a 2nd time

anothermember ,

I'm used to hearing about how a lot of people are put off of Lemmy because of all the "Linux" people on it, "people pushing Linux", "elitists", etc.

And yet I see something like this and think "are we not supposed to give good advice?".

If is the kind of thing you want for your computing then go for it.

hydrospanner ,

I think it's mostly that it comes across more like religious proselytizing than "good advice".

Also, that "advice" is mixed in with just as much messaging about how fussy it can be and implications that you've got to basically be an enthusiast level user to make it work for you. Not that it necessarily is that way, but overall that's the messaging I see from this community.

As someone who tried Linux many years ago, disliked it, and went back to Windows, generally my take is that Windows is far from perfect, but it's the best option for me, and I'm happy to try and ignore the Lemmy buzz around it...but that buzz just gets more and more annoying over time.

wuphysics87 ,

Take it on good faith that I won't bible beat you. I'm genuinely curious. What are things about windows that are 'far from perfect' as you put it? What would you do to change them, and if you could wave a magic wand and change whatever you want, what would you change?

anothermember ,

On self-reflection I'll admit that there's a bias experienced by people, like me, who live in the Linux bubble, surrounded by people who are happy Linux users, to overestimate the eagerness of other people to be on board. It's also easy to forget when you're on a general Technology community like this one, where a lot of people are talking about Linux, that it's not everyone is a Linux person.

In fact I don't even really detect much of a "Lemmy buzz" around it mainly because I participated in Linux-y parts of Reddit, and other places, before now. If anything from my point of view there seems to be more resistance to it on Lemmy.

It could be that having used it for nearly 20 years I've lost my ability to fathom why it would be difficult. But that said, both my parents use Linux and are non-technical users - they were fed up with windows crap like in OP so they asked me to set it up for them and it's been 5 years now trouble free. So even if you do need to be an enthusiast-level user to make it work, you only have to know one. What I still stand by is that it's good advice for most users.

HKayn ,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

It's unsolicited advice.

It would be like you posting about a minor annoyance with Minecraft, and then having multiple people tell you to ditch it and play Minetest instead.

wuphysics87 ,

That's not an apt comparison

anothermember ,

I don't know anything about Minecraft but if Minetest is an appropriate replacement without that minor annoyance I would suggest that's solicited advice.

brianary ,

Windows 10 keeps turning that stupid news feed back on on my taskbar, too.

n3m37h ,
Asafum ,

Pretty much the only thing I use my PC for is gaming so it really sucks that I can't just dump them for Linux...

I don't want some games. I don't want to have something I've been hyped about be out of reach for God knows how long just because Linux support is crap as the market share is so low, but man do i hate Microsoft...

captainlezbian , (edited )

Because of proton it’s not perfect but it’s damn close these days. And that means that linux support is rapidly increasing with linux marketshare. And when all else fails, I keep a windows partition just in case

Nanabaz2 ,

Beside we-know-which games that use a root-kit anti-cheat, which games you think doesn't work on Linux or work terribly or straight out not work on Linux on first-day?

I don't play those and I don't own them on Steam. Out of 600+ games I own on Steam, everything literally run without me touch my terminal once.

Unless you don't think proton is good, then you might be mistaken somewhere. It's straight magic

Asafum ,

To be honest I just see people commenting here and there that xyz game didn't work for them and they have to jump through a bunch of hoops for what does work that I just write Linux off for now.

That and I tend to like to check out early access games (cough star citizen cough) so I just dont want to limit myself just to give Mi€ro$oft the finger.

Also, (see early access comment) I'm kind of impatient so even though I'm pretty capable, the last thing I want to do is have to be an IT guy for my PC every time something doesn't work lol windows is pretty good in that respect.

bufalo1973 ,
@bufalo1973@lemmy.ml avatar

Suggestion: dual boot. Use Linux unless some game you want to play doesn't work (yet).

marito ,

Some Lego games.

Crozekiel ,

Gaming on Linux is really not as bad as all that unless you play a lot of games with invasive anti-cheat; which honestly, even if you never try Linux and stick to windows, I'd recommend avoiding or at least having a separate windows install for. I'm not a fan of having to install a rootkit on my computer that constantly monitors everything I do just to prove to some mega-corp I'm an honest player (especially considering how poorly even those work to stop cheaters).

I'd highly recommend anyone upset with microsoft to at least setup dual boot with one of the popular gaming specific Linux distos and trying it out. Even if you did a few years ago, it has really come a long way in the last few years.

Zerush ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

I love The Dark Mod, a great envolving game at the level of commercial ones, it's 100% free with a great community and works fine in Windows, Linux and Mac. A game for Years with currently more than 170 community made missions, more every few month.

LucidBoi ,

Installed Zorin OS the same day I got the full-screen prompt.

Grant_M ,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

The latest Zorin is slick. Love it.

Moobythegoldensock ,

“We tried asking. We tried begging. We tried bullying. We even tried tricking people into upgrading. We tried everything short of actually making a usable OS!”

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

"Please people, please... just give us your money. We might leave you alone after that. For a while."

jkrtn ,

I understand how it is possible for an OS to interrupt one's use of one's own computer to beg for money or to install spyware. I don't understand how such an OS would still have users.

floofloof , (edited )

If I didn't have to use it for work, and if Ableton Live made a Linux version, I'd never use Windows again. Every single activity is interrupted by messages that are effectively adverts for things you're not interested in. The Start menu still doesn't work after 29 years of development. Searching for a file is ridiculously slow and doesn't find the file. Everything else is also slow, all the time. I have given up trying to arrange my desktop icons because they always go back to the same position they've been stuck in for months. All the applications hang, and the whole system has frequent unresponsive moments where God knows what it's doing but it's nothing I asked for. I dual boot into Linux and it feels like an oasis of peace.

jkrtn ,

Oh yeah, sorry, didn't mean to rag on people that have to work with it. I think we're all frustrated that it's still so pervasive even though it gets worse every year.

Valmond ,

Check out "everything" for windows, it finds files, all files, instantly. And it's free.

If I worked at Microsoft, on windows, I'd be so ashamed I wouldn't tell.

floofloof ,

I use Everything. It is a thousand times more useful than Windows's file search, even though it only indexes filenames, not file contents.

dan1101 ,
@dan1101@lemm.ee avatar

Surely more AI will fix it!

nossaquesapao ,

I see they're getting desperate. One year and half to eol, and still, according to statcounter, 69% of the world uses windows 10.

Sianna ,

...nice

HobbitFoot ,

I would have upgraded if they didn't include the UI changes. I don't know why Microsoft keeps trying to make these big UI changes given that they have a built-in audience of power users that have optimized since XP.

Hadriscus ,

I think it's a way to justify the update. It's probably really about telemetry and hardware control, but normies see the centered taskbar and subconciously go "this must be new technology"

TheProtector0034 ,

I would gladly upgrade to W11 if MS just let me on my old hardware (which is still fast enough for my daily tasks)

SpaceCadet ,
@SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

Microsoft has 18 months to convince folks to upgrade.

They'll be lucky if I boot my Windows 10 partition between now and 18 months.

dandroid ,

I almost did the other day. But then I found out that someone made a Flatpak of MakeMKV, so I didn't need to.

Zerush , (edited )
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

At least in the EU until now no such PopUps, but it's hilarious, that I can't update to W11 in a 3 years old Laptop, at least not without cheats, only because my Graphic Card, AMD Radeon with 2+1 GB isn't in the MS list, not for other reasons.

https://file.coffee/u/qNClyF-5t23J7m4RUdYlY.png

rfvizarra ,

I'm in the EU and yesterday I booted in Windows 10 and I got one :(

Zerush ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

At least not in my, maybe I've gut Windows from all telemetries, notifications (except for updates) and other crap and services. If the Pop Ups persists, install the Optimizer (FOSS), which can help you to give it a kick in the ass.

https://github.com/hellzerg/optimizer

rfvizarra ,

Thanks!

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