itchy_lizard ,

Serious question: why do you need to get a permit to change a sign on your own building?

HiddenLayer5 ,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Surprised he actually got told no.

No that’s not a joke, I’m genuinely surprised they stopped him because I fully expected him to get away with it.

hltdev ,

“er” is right !

grue ,

Nah, it’s completely inaccurate because the “twit” is missing!

HawlSera ,

The Police actually stopped a rich guy from doing something illegal?

N0body ,

He didn’t pay for a permit to do so. The police are there to protect capital, but under clearly-defined rules. Anyone who isn’t a fuckwit knows to pay the city its fees before doing something like this.

When JPMorgan Chase buys out a smaller bank, they apply for the permit in triplicate and pay all the fees, then make a donation to the Fraternal Order of Police. The cops then show up to attack protestors.

Tyfud ,

God damn, that’s depressing to think about.

RandomLemming ,

Honestly, this is a comedy that needs to be seen to be believed.

nortorc ,

Not that it isn’t fun to laugh at what a boondoggle Twitter X is, but why do you need a permit to change a sign on a building?

echodot ,

Presumably because he (the company) doesn’t actually own the building. So any modifications have to be approved by the building owner.

Same way you can’t really paint the wall of your rented accommodation. It’s not your property.

neptune ,

Need to make sure a qualified contractor does the work, that the sidewalk is roped off, and that other construction on the same road isn’t happening. Pretty typical stuff.

mister_flibble ,

Guessing less about the sign itself and more about the heavy equipment/traffic obstruction involved in getting it down.

venusenvy47 ,

Also possibly becathe doesn’t own the building and needs approval of the owner.

Anticorp ,

Owners don’t issue permits, the government does.

Saik0Shinigami ,
@Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com avatar

But owners would probably call the police to stop the illegal work from being done to their building. They don’t want the liability. This would be reasonable to be part of an approval process with the building owners as you’d likely need their signature with the city, not just twitters.

venusenvy47 ,

Agreed. But the owner of the building would presumably be able to control modifications of his own building.

LaFinlandia ,
@LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz avatar

Normal procedure to make sure it’s within legal standards.

moosetwin ,

yes that is what a permit is

downdaemon ,
@downdaemon@lemmy.ml avatar

local laws

halibutherring ,

On public roads and sidewalks, you need permits and to have submitted a plan showing how much of the footpath/road will be blocked and for how long. You need to show where your bollards and rope or whatnot will be and any necessary signage (like 'pedesdrians keep left’s) that sort of thing.

Once you get the approval, you can jam up the area with a cherry picker/crane until you’re finished and everything is packed away.

So anyway, what I’m getting at, is this is the signage company not getting the permits - which they would have charged Twitter/X for and not an Elon oversight - UNLESS Elon decided to park that crane out there himself and to get whoever to pull down the signage.

fiat_lux ,

Can we now start pronouncing X as 'errrr' when referring to the company? It would be good not to taint the good name of the letter entirely.

And it does say 'er' on the side of not-his-building.

arsenick ,

I like the idea of calling it “ten”.

Aidan ,

I like the idea of never referring to it again

Uniquitous ,

I call it Xitter, using the Chinese pronunciation of Xi.

6daemonbag ,

Brb gotta take a xit

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

That’s gonna mess with Elon’s baseball stats. Now he has an er.

Albbi ,

Definitely an unforced er.

smoregooseboard ,

The “amazimg” Lorenz, is maybe (like U) an amazing loser.

tom ,

You need to have permits to change signs on your own building?

ram ,
@ram@lemmy.ramram.ink avatar

It’s the heavy machinery required to do it that’s the problem. This is also not Elon Musk’s building, but a building Twitter rents. The building management company were the ones who called the police.

tom ,

Ah that explains. Didn’t know he was renting the building.

clutchmattic ,

Most of those IT platform companies only rent their premises as it helps improve the balance sheet and quarterly results by moving “capital expenses” into “operational costs”

WarmSoda ,

Well that, and the fact it costs huge amounts of money to own land in cities.

OttoVonGoon ,

I believe part of it is that managing huge buildings is actually a pain in the ass and requires specialized experience to do efficiently, so many companies end up saving money by not owning their buildings.

WarmSoda ,

Companions like this very rarely own property. They rent space from the property management companies that bought the land and constructed the buildings.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup. If you own a building, you need to pay someone to maintain it. If you rent a building, you get all of that in the contract and it’s one less thing to manage.

Also, you can relatively change buildings if you need more space, whereas if you own it, you need to sell it first.

malchemy ,
WarmSoda ,

Forgot about that shit. The guy’s such a scumbag. Hasn’t paid rent since he moved in and then tried to renovate? He seriously needs to be knocked down a few billion pegs.

jmbreuer ,
@jmbreuer@lemmy.ml avatar

The way I heard it elsewhere (Google should help), Twitter/Elon actually had the necessary and correct permits (for using heavy machinery on the street/sidewalk and redirecting traffic around it).

Unfortunately, that detail was not correctly communicated to building security, who called the police believing there was no permit.

By the time the misunderstanding could be cleared up, the workers & heavy machinery had… “vacated premises” already, leaving the work in its half-finished state.

ram ,
@ram@lemmy.ramram.ink avatar

Do you have a source on that?

victron ,
@victron@lemmy.world avatar

Mf can’t stop taking Ls

youthinkyouknowme ,

This is comical beyond belief lmao

popemichael ,
@popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

To er is to be Musk

Socialphilosopher ,

I know a lot of people don’t like it. But the people who have changed the world have always been far from ordinary.He prefers to sensationalize rather than advertise.

mrmanager OP ,
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

Being born rich is almost certainly a requirement to start with. There must be a lot of non famous brilliant people without a public voice like the clowns, Musk and Trump and Zuck and all the others.

PanArab ,
@PanArab@lemmy.ml avatar

“it is my building!” – Elon, probably

IphtashuFitz ,

Also “Permits are for dummies”.

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