CHROME (google) is planing to implement DRM (kinda) into their browser ( lemmy.dbzer0.com )

looks like rendering adblockers extensions obsolete with manifest-v3 was not enough so now they try to implement DRM into the browser giving the ability to any website to refuse traffic to you if you don’t run a complaint browser ( cough…firefox )

here is an article in hacker news since i’m sure they can explain this to you better than i.

and also some github docs

samokosik ,
@samokosik@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Also it’s not kinda drm, it is drm. Like fr

mr_right OP ,
@mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

yeah i used “kinda” to avoid the infamous :

well AcutUaLly…

Lightor ,

Then you got “well actually’d” for it.

The internet is an unforgiving place.

samokosik ,
@samokosik@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Looks like we will have to switch to web3 for good

deCorp0 ,

I haven’t used Chrome years, Firefox and Brave browser suit me fine. Since Brave uses the same engine and extensions. What’s the downside of Brave besides ppl not liking the creator? If I stopped using every device and product with an evil genius behind it I’d live in a cave somewhere with no technology at all.

runaway ,

I’ve seen a lot of hate directed towards Brave and I don’t understand it either. It’s my primary browser and it’s fine once you hide the crypto stuff, the recent news about it seems to either be positive things about the browser itself or something about their search engine providing API access that’s being abused somehow.

ChillDiamondGuy ,

Which is worse, this or the C2PA specification?

bad_alloc ,

Will this fly with GDPR?

Bookmeat ,

I predict this standard will die the way of Flash and Silverlight. If it makes the web more fragile and less accessible it will fail.

mawkishdave ,
@mawkishdave@lemmy.world avatar

So glad I switched to Firefox at home, wish I could use it at work.

avrg ,

Why can’t you?

mawkishdave ,
@mawkishdave@lemmy.world avatar

Who I work for doesn’t allow me to

ThaNook ,

WHY?

dylanTheDeveloper ,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

Well they can DRM deez nutz

Ulrich_the_Old ,

I have never used Chrome because Google is evil. I used edge once to download Firefox.

tippfehlr ,

The only time I ever used edge xD

Zucca ,

TIP: winget install mozilla.firefox so you don’t need to use Edge either.

Pixlbabble ,

Dude if they make youtube accessible only through Chrome we gonna have some problems.

BloodForTheBloodGod ,

I’d have to stop using it. I’d even go to another service like Nebula, at that point, and pay for it.

But I am not going to start running Chrome on my home computer as a daily driver.

gunnm ,

If they go after NewPipe and SmartTube I’m going to shill hard the alternatives.

msprout ,

There are alternatives for YouTube? PeerTube is great tech and all, but content is really rare there.

gunnm ,

Yeah is the only good alternative.

Pulp ,

Better archive videos now. Save your favourites and some more.

Pixlbabble ,

Oh man you’re not wrong. hiyaah

sapient_cogbag ,
@sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub avatar

Yet another vitally important front in the war on general purpose computing (it’s a short and important read imo)

Fuck Google, and fuck DRM.

MrShankles ,

Thank you for that read. That honestly gave me a lot more perspective than I had, and that speech was quoted from over a decade ago!? The more I know, the more I realize how much I don’t know… but hot damn. I know it’s been a fight, but “a war” really does seem more apt

hardypart ,
@hardypart@feddit.de avatar

What a read, wow. Thanks for sharing!

Powerpoint ,

Works a good protest be to switch to iPhone as well since they are safari based browsers?

Deuces ,

You could also just install Firefox on your Android. That may not work in the future, but it will continue to work for now

ddkman ,

I am very pessimistic but even I dont think mozzilla will abandon gecko. For one it works, also it is all they have.

nintendiator ,

Who do you think the first / main Attesters are going to be with this proposals? Well, companies that have the mediums to do so and the captive audiences to precheck. Such as GAFAM of which Apple is part and founder of.

CrypticFawn ,
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No because then you’re stuck using Apple’s ecosystem.

HurlingDurling ,

Users like visiting websites that are expensive to create and maintain, but they often want or need to do it without paying directly. These websites fund themselves with ads, but the advertisers can only afford to pay for humans to see the ads, rather than robots.

Won’t you think of the poor poor ad companies?

buckykat ,

Users like visiting websites that are expensive to create and maintain

Do they actually, or is that just all they have to visit anymore? Would users not be happier visiting a bunch of cheap geocities pages with blink tags instead of tracking cookies?

xePBMg9 ,

It’s all about how far we can push the user and how much the user is willing to pay. Gotta squeeze and close all avenues of escape, so they tolerate some more.

CannaVet ,

Unfortunately all the masses want is maximum ease of use, full stop. Just look at the Reddit exiles -

“Welcome to Lemmy, pick a server any server be a winner”

“WTF IS THIS NERD SHIT SIGNUP TOOK MORE THAN ONE ACTION ON MY PART RIP LEMMY LONG LIVE REDDIT IS LEMME JUST REDDIT YET NO FUUUUUUUUU”

Blackmist ,

Half the internet now seems to be bots creating content purely for the enjoyment of other bots. Typing any kind of difficult question into a search engine will now have you dodging a minefield of AI generated articles, none of which contain any useful information other than what they’ve scraped from other AI generated pages.

blender2142 ,

So true. I want to bang my head against a wall whenever i get a problem and the first three result pages are the same different article scraped by AI. To make matters worse, it’s almost always some speech about corruption followed by dism /fixnow

Pulp ,

Thats what chatgpt solves.

ScaredDuck ,

Wait, is this google basically admitting they’ve been scamming advertisers by taking their money to show ads to bots?

BilboBargains ,

Nobody considers the plight of the humble sprawling multinational corporation and their army of lobbyists.

techgearwhips ,

Time for me to start donating to Firefox. Need to do my part to make sure Chrome doesn’t complete its monopoly

gressen ,

Except websites can just drop support for incompatible browsers.

CrypticFawn ,
@CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

So then stop going to those websites. It’s a viable way to protest.

Pulp ,

Yeah, but be realistic. They aren’t going to miss us, the 7% who already block ads and mostly don’t pay for anything, anyways.

Engywuck ,

You can’t legally donate to Firefox, as it is developed by a Corp (Mozilla Corp.). Donations go to Mozilla Foundation, which does… other things with you money. In other words, your money don’t go towards FF development.

ahal ,

However in theory the more self sustaining the Foundation is, the less the Corp needs to support it.

Engywuck ,

I don’t think it works like this. Anyway, your money, your choice.

vinhill ,

I believe under US laws, it’s the opposite. The more donations a nonprofit receives, the more money it can earn though for-profit subsidiaries. I.e. the more donations, the more money the foundation can take out of the corporation.

Ofc both are interested in a sustainable relationship though.

techgearwhips ,

Good to know

glacier ,
@glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

FireFox already supports DRM. Sites like Hulu/Netflix already refuse to work without it

DivisionResult ,

And if you start building a QEMU machine that spoofes your machine IDs? So you can do all ypur DRM sruff from QEMU?

github.com/A1exxander/KVM-Spoofing

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