[General question to the Android community] Have you given up on the audio jack, or do you still only buy devices that have it?

(Posting this here rather than !askandroid as it's a quite general question)

I had a look at the GSM Arena phone finder, and it the choice is getting smaller and smaller every year (only 43 phones from 2023, reviewed by the site, had a jack)

The remaining ones are mostly

  • Xiaomi Redmi
  • Zenfones
  • Sony
  • Samsung entry range

So, has everyone switched to Bluetooth / USB-C dongles, or are there still a few people holding to the jack until the very end?

MimicJar ,

I'll die alone on this headphone jack hill if I need to, I only buy phones with headphone jacks.

Currently using a Motorola of some sort, replacement for another Motorola.

judooochp ,

Only With the 3.5 mm audio jack. Bluetooth devices always have some delay, never are immune from connection problems or intermittent readback (especially if you have other devices you switch between), and don't last as long as they advertise. The delay thing is particularly irksome on the phone and watching videos. Much less important for music, but I'm not the kinda guy who plays music a lot. The battery thing is probably less of an issue these days, and could maybe be discarded, but I also forget to charge important devices, so that's a me thing and party of the reason.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@lemmy.zip avatar

Agree on most of your your points. Which phone do you use?

judooochp ,

The No-Longer-Supported LG G7 ThinQ. Not upgrading until it blows up in my pocket.

ColeSloth ,

My hill is the microsd card slot. I might have to figure out how to make my note 20 ultra last another 40 years, though. :-(

On another note; if compatible, APTX Bluetooth codec is pretty lag free when watching streaming videos. For local videos, there is a bit of noticeable lag on a lot of players, but I use VLC and it has an audio/video sync setting you can manually adjust so it matches up correctly and it will forever save that setup for you.

catloaf ,

I used to hate Bluetooth, but that's because the early versions were terrible. Painful to connect, frequent drops and disconnects, and very short range and easy to block the signal.

Since Bluetooth 4 it's been great, and rock solid with Bluetooth 5. The only time I've had a problem is when I went into the other room and stood directly in front of a running microwave. I lost about half the signal until I took a step back.

Wireless headphones are far more convenient. Phone in my pocket, and I can walk around, clean the house, or work out at the gym, completely untethered.

Khrux ,

Yeah I absolutely do not miss snagging my headphone cable on every door or drawer handle in a 1 mine radius. Also I think I used to go through 3-4 sets of headphones a year by wearing out the cable, spending the last few weeks precariously holding the cable 24/7 to enjoy the music.

Wireless does have it's issues but I'm on my 2nd wireless pair, both bought in the £30 region and it's probably been 5+ years since I used wired now. Battery hasn't been an issue really, and although I lost one headphone on my previous wireless set, I can live with it.

I absolutely support the want for a headphone jack so people can choose wired, but I'd still choose wireless.

RinseDrizzle ,

Likely sound like cranky old man but I'll be catching phones with a jack as long as I can! Not mad about having the option for wireless, but I'm a bit of a purist.

Plus once in a blue moon I'll DJ without Wi-Fi and use the phone to pull up a tune I don't have in my physical storage. Much harder to do that without 3.5mm jack.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@lemmy.zip avatar

Which phone do you use?

RinseDrizzle ,

Still on a pretty old Galaxy 9, been putting off the upgrade forever. Not even sure what the cool kids are using these days. Need to hit that research phase a bit

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

No jack = no buy.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@lemmy.zip avatar

What do you currently use?

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

One of the one plus that tmobile gave when they required 5g capability. It's partially degoogled, but otherwise pretty standard. Headphone jack + sd slot, and it gets the job done. I can't recall what the general name is, something like a nord 200 or whatever, but the model is de2118.

Decent phone overall tbh. I thought I would hate it, but the battery life is solid, the audio is "good enough" for road trips, and the size is just right for my hands.

femtech ,

No, I stopped using it once I got wireless headphones. I hated hearing the cord brushing against my clothes while moving.

MostlyGibberish ,

Yeah, once I made the switch to wireless earbuds, I didn't miss the jack at all. People have valid complaints about them, like the price and the limited battery, but I think the convenience is worth it.

helenslunch ,

You realize phones with headphone jacks ALSO have Bluetooth, right?

Drigo ,

Why would he buy a phone with headphones jack, when the selection of phones is so shitty. And he is not even using the jack?

omxxi ,

yes, audio jack is an important differentiator for me when I'm buying new phone

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@lemmy.zip avatar

Which phone do you use at the moment?

omxxi ,

Moto G23

glacier ,
@glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I've given up on it. While I think it was silly to remove, I've come to find it just as silly to be so attached to a cable. Bluetooth and USBC headphones have worked just fine for me.

dingus , (edited )

Yeah I'm a bit salty that it's gone, but I've actually found using Bluetooth earbuds to be a way better experience. I'm no longer snagging a cable on everything and ripping them out of my ears. Maybe I'm just a clumsy idiot, but I did this all the time with wired headphones.

One thing that Bluetooth headphones still suck for is gaming. The lag is too obnoxious. So I have a pair of headphones that can convert to wired for that purpose. I don't game on my phone so that part is a non-issue for me.

You can also get a decent pair at a relatively inexpensive price nowadays. It used to be crazy expensive to jump in, but there are a lot of cheaper ones out there nowadays that still offer great sound.

Edit: I saw a commenter complain about the lag when watching videos. This doesn't happen for me. I'm not sure if the tech is in my phone itself or in my headphones (I have two different pairs from different companies), but there is some sort of processing that goes on that makes it so the audio and video are synced, no matter if I'm watching a local video on my phone or a YouTube video. I can even manually adjust it with a "Bluetooth metronome" setting/app, but I've never needed to manually adjust it. For me, lag only happens when playing video games.

kugmo ,
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

I had to give up removable batteries in phones but I will never give up 3.5 mm.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@lemmy.zip avatar

Which phone do you use?

kugmo ,
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Moto G7+, its old and wouldn't recommend seeking one out.

Blaze OP ,
@Blaze@lemmy.zip avatar

Thanks!

dcooksta26 ,
@dcooksta26@lemmy.world avatar

I seek out phones with audio jacks. My current Moto G Power 2020 has one and I use it all the time. No dongles or adapters in the car or on various headphones. Plus I actually use the FM Radio built into the phone and that uses the wire for the headphones as an antenna. I just cut off some old earbuds and plug that in, then direct the audio to either the phone speaker itself or BT.

skullgiver , (edited )
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    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@lemmy.zip avatar

    Thanks for the article. It still shows that medium-range Samsung such as the A34 and A54 don't have it anymore, while the A52 and A72 still had it.

    you list three large brands already

    • RedMi have reliability and quality issues
    • Zenfones and Sony prices are quite pricey: Zenfone 9 is 500€ on Ebay in Europe and a Sony Xperia 5 V is 700€

    Indeed, some Nokia phones have jack, but the issue comes from the CPU: the G42 has a Snapdragon 480, while the X30 has a Snapdragon 695, but no headphone jack. Also, the G42 has battery issues

    However, the Nokia G42 5G cannot stand out from comparable phones in any of these areas. The battery life and WLAN speed are also mediocre rather than leading.

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nokia-G42-5G-smartphone-review-With-this-eye-catcher-you-can-even-swap-the-battery.740282.0.html#toc-6

    The Nokia G21 mentioned in the article have low performance (which makes sense, it's an entry level device): https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_g21-review-2389p4.php

    entry range Samsung phones (though I really wouldn’t call $500 phones “entry range”).

    The Samsung I was referring to is the A25, 200€ on Amazon, and the A09, 109€.

    The 500€ you are referring too is the A55, 370€, but no headphone jack.

    not everyone is buying flagship phones.

    I'm not either, and that's what I'm telling you: on top of the flagships, the medium range phones don't have jack anymore either (as shows your article)

    • Samsung A55: no jack, the A52 had (S line is the flaghip)
    • Pixel: 7a: no jack, 5a had (7 is the flagship)

    Having to buy the entry range device, which last longer and provide a worse experiences, probably doesn't compensate getting a jack.

    skullgiver , (edited )
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    Blaze OP ,
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    I don’t consider €350+ phones entry level.

    Neither do I? I mentioned the 200€ and 109€ as entry level

    That’s mid-range for me.

    Agreed

    if people would’ve bought flagships with headphone jacks during the transition

    They didn't really gave them a choice. As per your article, between 2019 and 2020, Samsung dropped the jack on the S-line. People who upgrade phones regularly tend to stick to a brand they know due to convenience, so indeed most of the people wouldn't have dropped years of satisfying Samsung experience for a jack, especially as phones came with Bluetooth earbuds.

    The loud majority who does care can protest the change by buying from other brands that do sport headphone jacks.

    I tried, I have been researching this topic extensively in the last few months, and when you add on top of that I prefer phones less than 160 mm high, the possibilities are very limited.

    Which I get from a manufacturer perspective: smaller phones sell less (as their audience tends to keep them longer), and most of the people don't care about the jack. But thinking that a specific demographic can influence the whole market doesn't seem realistic.

    Now that I think about it, even the Fairphone dropped the jack...

    _NetNomad ,
    @_NetNomad@kbin.run avatar

    i avoid anything wireless like the plague short of wifi. pairing is always a miserable process, and by the time everything is connected, the batteries are dead. it drives me absolutely bonkers. thankfully many motorolla phones still have 3.5mm jacks . i think my current model is the motorolla 5g stylus

    BearOfaTime ,

    Lol.

    BT hasn't been that bad in years.

    Rarely have problems with pairing, and have about a dozen BT devices in my house.

    Batteries and power are so much better today I worry less about charging BT devices than my phone.

    Shimitar ,
    @Shimitar@feddit.it avatar

    I consider myself an old fart, but you need to get out and do more experiences yourself.

    Wireless Bluetooth headsets have been pretty nice for years. Don't go too cheap (but even cheap ones can be good) but don't waste too much money either on them and you will be fine.

    Pairing today is smooth and easy, never had an issue in the last 5 years at very least. Battery life is pretty good, my tw buds get a week worth of charge at my usage (and I use them for daily sport training, calls and occasional video). They get charged automatically when I put them back in the box and the box itself recharge in like 30 minutes.

    And you can use them one at a time, which is good to get truly unlimited "call time". .moreover, my model can both do noise cancelation or environment sound pass-trough which is amazingly good when running on asphalt (the latter) and trying to isolate in the office (the former).

    Moreover having no chord dangling getting pulled and catching around is unreliable better experience.

    I had to go back to wired a few times (forgot the wireless home..) And found how much worse experience that is.

    Of course, I prefer the choice and I have always purchased a phone with audio jack and will do again if at the same price/hardware level.

    _NetNomad ,
    @_NetNomad@kbin.run avatar

    different strokes for different blokes i guess but i prefer to not have to charge things and not worry about pairing and that's that

    Sylence ,
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    I exclusively use phones with a 3.5mm jack. Currently on a Sony Xperia 1 IV. That said, I also use bluetooth IEMs sometimes and I like having the option of switching between wired/wireless when convenient.

    ToxicDivinity ,
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    I'll only buy a phone with an audio jack and usbc port.

    I think of my phone like a swiss army knife, it's a multi tool that I carry with me at all times and can be used for many different things. I like using wireless headphones and I usually connect via bluetooth but on the occasion that I need to plug a headset into my phone I am able to quickly and easily do that with no extra thought.

    Why would I buy a new phone that has less features than my current phone?

    thetreesaysbark ,

    Why would I buy a new phone that has less features...?

    Because of all those time you need to take a picture of your feet underwater!

    Blaze OP ,
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    Which phone do you currently use?

    ToxicDivinity ,
    @ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net avatar

    Samsung s10

    Blaze OP ,
    @Blaze@lemmy.zip avatar

    Thanks

    jacktherippah ,

    I'm fine with Bluetooth. My earbuds and speakers all have Bluetooth nowadays.

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