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eruchitanda ,
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Take something user-friendly, like Linux Mint, or Fedora.

eruchitanda ,
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I'd recommend against it, but if you'd *really* want to try something Arch-based, you can try EndeavourOS.

boredsquirrel ,

Linux mint is pretty outdated and restricting. They using GTK while fighting GNOME is not a nice place to be.

Also their extension store looks like "nobody uses Linux" unlike the KDE Plasma extensions.

Fedora is not user friendly out of the box due to their legal issues and their strange Fedora Flatpaks. I recommend uBlue instead, even though somehow they removed instructions to install the main variants and only advertize Bluefin/Aurora and Bazzite.

sixdripb ,

uhh on fedora just enable third party repos during initial setup and you’re good. its insanely easy

boredsquirrel ,

No. This button is completely uninformative and enables only proprietary but free stuff like Chrome, Jetbrains, Steam and NVidia drivers.

It does not

  • enable flathub
  • enable rpmfusion

I use Fedora and I know what I am talking about. The KDE people are currently adding the same "add external repos" button to the Plasma welcome screen, at least something.

But you still have

  • "flatpak apps" but from the wrong source and sometimes broken (just imagine how confusing this is for new users. Having "the flatpak alternative" but its also wrong.)
  • no flathub
  • libavcodec etc. that interfere with ffmpeg
  • no nvidia drivers
sixdripb ,

nope, since fedora 38 this button enables full access to flathub. it also lets you install proprietary nvidia drivers from gnome-software with one click. hardware decoding via ffmpeg also works for flathub apps that require it.

boredsquirrel ,

Oh nice, didnt know that.

I am not sure how well that works, as NVIDIA drivers need a karg and a blocklist of nouveau.

ffmpeg needs to be installed mit --allowerasing

While yes for sure flathub apps have support, you still have a preinstalled Firefox and a flatpak remote that both dont have the nonfree stuff. This is just very confusing.

But btw Firefox RPM has support for user namespace sandboxes, allowing process isolation. So just using the official Flatpak is not a real solution.

sixdripb , (edited )

yeah, the firefox situation is indeed still confusing. you make a good point. deleting the stock one and installing the flathub one + ffmpeg-full(flatpak) seems the most straight forward solution for hardware decoding. but as you said still fairly confusing.

I do still think ublue is more confusing to understand, personally

boredsquirrel ,

Yes but again, Flathub Firefox has no process isolation with user namespaces. Something not easy to understand, but it simply removes a big security layer (between browser and processes, and between processes). It also adds the security layer between browser and OS, so not that easy.

Have a look at bubblejail, that is far away from plug and play poorly. But it allows to sandbox the browser like flatpak, but allow user namespace creation (a syscall) to also isolate processes.

Ublue is Fedora Atomic without legal restrictions or strange decisions.

But they also deleted their old website, so the only easily installable versions are Bluefin/Aurora (GNOME/KDE) and Bazzite. Which are also opinionated but I think in a good way.

sixdripb ,

good infos thx!

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