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anders ,
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Has anyone tried the DE for in the recent years?

How was the experience?

@linux

REdOG ,
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No, I guess Wayland is kind of on my to-do list....I just don't need anything it offers. I'm grumpily enough implementing systemd already

anders OP ,
@anders@theres.life avatar

@REdOG
I see. Well for me too, Xorg offered all the features I need and is still more well supported than Wayland in some areas, but on my system Wayland has so much better performance. On Xorg I was having mouse lags, on Wayland it's just smooth.

thegreybeardofthetree ,
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@linux Sharing a 'small' inconvenience I had to fix with (I suspect is the same) - I couldn't launch snaps (spotify, bitwarden) after update - error was: cannot determine seccomp compiler version in generateSystemKey fork/exec /usr/lib/snapd/snap-seccomp: no such file or directory

The fix (I first tried re-installing, didn't work) was to:
a. locate snap-seccomp - was in /usr/libexec/snapd
b. symlink: ln -s /usr/libexec/snapd /usr/lib/snapd

Vendetta9076 ,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

But snap is cringe

bravemonkey ,

This is why I prefer using Distrobox on my personal computer. No package for Signal-Desktop? No problem, run it through a Debian container using Distrobox.

ajayiyer , (edited )
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Dear @linux and @academicchatter folks:

Please suggest libre/open source tools that allow for the extraction of text and images from scientific pdf documents?

P.S: I'm on a linux machine. Would like something terminal friendly, if possible!

CCRhode ,
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I'm mystified that poppler-utils is not a viable option. Of course the *.pdf file would have to include the text itself, but many do.

Carunga ,

Try Zotero. It is a complete literature databas but it's PDF reader is very good at extracting images and text. Works on all OS, web and mobile. Native Linux client has been very smooth for me. Oh, terminal it doesn't do though. If you want to extract a large amount in an automated way, its probably not the right tool.

gwendolencopper ,

Any virtual keyboard / on-screen keyboard recommendations for Gnome (Wayland) users? The default one doesn't support X11/XWayland apps, which unfortunately is most of them...

Pantherina ,

Yes poorly. The input method protocol was done by Purism (which says something as that company seems dead or whatever) and then basically untouched.

gwendolencopper OP ,

@Excigma I can swipe up to force the keyboard to appear, but pressing the keys does nothing in X11 apps (which use XWayland under Wayland), like Chromium browsers or KeepassXC

talesofaprinny ,
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How do I properly resize my LVM partitions when it is inside LUKS?

Do I have to boot in a USB to do it or can it be done while the crypt is open/being used? I need to resize my root partition.

@linux

talesofaprinny OP ,
@talesofaprinny@mastodon.social avatar

@atzanteol All's good. Yea, reason for the post was that even though I took the partitions offline it wouldn't still let me resize. So I think the best next move would be just booting into a USB and see if it lets me.

The whole disk well, only the boot is separated. The rest of the partition has the whole space controlled by LVM. Interestingly even though that may be the setup something was just rejecting my resize request.

Sadly have more to say but Mastodon limit is hitting haha. nutshell

atzanteol ,

Did you already shrink the filesystem? I think lvresize will refuse to shrink if the FS is too big (not sure - I don't shrink volumes often).

talesofaprinny ,
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Anyone knows how to properly start a multiseat wayland with a desktop environment or window manager running?

I just need simple stuff such as profile initialization of the user and if it's possible to just share the same discrete GPU across multiple seats?

The end result? I want to isolate my current user space from the gaming space where I can just connect using moonlight/sunshine. I want it all headless.

@linux @linux_gaming

keefshape ,

I may have to give it a go. I am similarly adverse to mucking with xorg confs.

TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe ,

Let me know if you get any progress

anders ,
@anders@rytter.me avatar

Enterprise Linux on desktop?

Anyone using enterprise Linux on their desktop such as RHEL, Alma, Rocky, CentOS etc.?

I'm curious if it's easy to use for this purpose or if the older packages are a pain.

@linux

anders OP ,
@anders@rytter.me avatar

@possiblylinux127 Fedora FTW 🙏

GnomeComedy ,

Hi! I sincerely want to thank you for your well thought out response. I apologize if the word troll came off wrong. I probably should have used a better descriptor. My primary goal was to be a voice FOR enterprise distros at home - because I saw mostly posts from people who probably aren't professional sysadmins and have never even tried an enterprise distro.

I fully concede on the VERY new hardware being a challenge for RHEL, an Ubuntu LTS or similar. I'm unfortunately not in a situation where I can afford that problem (kids and daycare costs) so it's fallen off my radar. I do occasionally run into it at work with research groups that just buy the latest/fastest gaming hardware without checking with IT (we would generally steer them towards workstation/data center grade hardware instead of gaming hardware...not applicable to this discussion for home use). If somehow I could acquire something with new enough hardware to have that problem I'd probably use Fedora on it (so I could just modify my Ansible to work with both), and wait for current Fedora to become RHEL and then that hardware would become RHEL for the rest of it's lifetime. Mainly - the huge number of constant updates and the every 6 month big updates on Fedora are just too much hassle for me.

On gaming and the other comparisons about improvements on newer packages: I do agree with you. My personal approach has just moved to use what is "tried and tested" and "good enough". It's a pretty common approach for sysadmins to let other early adopters find all of the bugs in new stuff. For example: I'm excited about bcachefs, but when I installed Fedora Rawhide just to test it after the recent 6.7 release - I found it largely NOT ready for anything I would need to trust (commands that return the console, but no indication that they did nothing for example - doesn't give me a good feeling about putting all of my family photos on it until it matures). For now, I'll still use XFS for small systems and ZFS for large systems or where I need send/receive.

All of that said: I acknowledge these are preferences and my approach, not a " right" way. I do still think it's a valid approach for some who wants less updates and a more stable config if they're happy with "fast enough" and less potential for update breakage.

Thank you again for being respectful and detailed in your response. Cheers!

yianiris ,
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Corporate Spam Bot
@linux

is a booster-bot not really of linux, I would say ANTI-LINUX, and promotes constantly marketing by 3-4 corporations that seek to dominate linux and displace all alternatives.

@linux

Portrays as linux the products of IBM (systemd, Qt-corporation) and the distros that promote them by prohibiting alternatives.

BAN the corporate spam bot from all servers!

yianiris OP ,
@yianiris@kafeneio.social avatar

The majority of people speak of junk/fast food 3 brands of soda, 2, 3 brands of coffee/tea, 2 brnands of tropical fruit ,3 brands of power-drinks, 3 brands of beer,
as nutrition, 2 brands of phone OSs, and it is all crap if not bad for you.

So what is your point?

What is popular is what has been marketed, and it is usually both dominant and a very poor alternative to what it sells for.

@Rustmilian

Rustmilian , (edited )
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You should just block 99% of Linux insistence if you're that butt hurt over what's popular.
Also, the Linux community consistently doesn't give a rats ass about marketing, we only care about what works well.
X11/Xorg for example is dying not "because of marketing", it's dying because it an unmaintainable mess with numerous unfixable problems and downright design flaws. That's why freedesktop.org in collaboration with Xorg devs created and develop Wayland.

foxy ,
@foxy@social.edu.nl avatar

Apparently my love language is installing @linux on the laptops of people I really care about.

krisfreedain ,
@krisfreedain@fosstodon.org avatar

@foxy @linux yeah, I'm an Ubuntu user myself, and would likely go that route for others, just curious to see what your experience has been so far 😀

foxy OP ,
@foxy@social.edu.nl avatar

@krisfreedain @linux
I started from Ubuntu in high school and it felt bloated. I moved to Void which was nice, but not really supported in general. I started recommending Fedora to beginners but started using Alpine as my daily driver. Don't think I will ever move from Alpine, but maybe I will recommend something other than Fedora in the future.

Varen ,
@Varen@kbin.social avatar

got told to crosspost over here to reach more people:

https://kbin.social/m/linuxquestions/p/4631784

I don't know if and how crossposting functions in kbin/lemmy, so hopefully it'll work that way

Varen OP ,
@Varen@kbin.social avatar

ok took me 3 days to test, apologies :D
but unfortunately, no, doesn't work. Even the "old" iso stucks at the exact same position with the exact same behavior :(

rufus ,

Ah nice. At least something. But I don't think it'll change anything since it's still grub outputting that, and not a life sign from the kernel.

ajayiyer ,
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I am thinking about hosting my own Mastodon server from home on a Raspberry Pi (Pi4 8GB)?

  1. Are there good tutorials out there?
  2. What's the annual cost just to host yourself?

@linux @nixCraft @raspberrypi

kurumin ,
@kurumin@linux.community avatar

I myself am really an enthusiast of new tech. But the high energy use is a huge deal breaker IMHO.

Is that argument not true?

makeasnek , (edited )
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The problem isn't that Bitcoin uses a lot of energy. The problem is that people never consider that energy use in context. Yet any headline about Bitcoin and energy never provides that context, because they are essentially hit pieces designed to elicit anger and clicks. Instead, we have to ask: What does that energy get us? How does that energy use compare to the energy used by other systems which perform the same function? A car which gets 10 miles per gallon would have been a fantastic use of energy in 1953, but today it is seen as wasteful. It does the same underlying thing, but the context matters.

Historically, our currencies have been based on incredibly inequitably distributed resources: precious metals and stable governance. Bitcoin is based on energy, which is the most equitably distributed resource on the planet. It literally falls from the sky, it runs through every river and every gust of wind and is found in the earth's crust as uranium. Sometimes we get energy from unsustainable places, it sucks that any industry (including Bitcoin) uses it. That is a policy and governance problem, not a problem of our monetary system. You should know that Bitcion miners flock to renewable energy sources and over-provisioned grids. Why? Because they need the cheapest energy possible, which tends to come from renewables. Bitcoin miners are "buyers of last resort", if there was anybody else to buy that energy, they would have bought it, and miners would have been outbid, because miners can't afford to pay high energy prices as they must compete with every other miner on the planet. This is why Bitcoin mines typically don't operate during peak demand hours, which is where most fossil fuels are used. Bitcoin, as "buyers of last resort" can be a part of the green revolution, they make it easier for governments to invest in and over-provision renewable infrastructure, and they make that green energy cheaper for everybody else by ensuring that at least someone will buy it during times of low demand. The problem with renewables is that they produce all day whereas people only actually want energy a few times a day.

Energy use is critical for the security of the Bitcoin network. While schemes that don't use energy have been proposed, they all suffer from some serious trade-offs that make them unsuitable if we are going to build a global reserve currency, including a tendency to cause centralization and to reward the system's richest participants. If a way is found to avoid using energy while still providing the same level of security and decentralization, Bitcoin is absolutely capable of upgrading its own network to use that new way.

First, let's look at what Bitcoin does in exchange for that energy: Bitcoin is an economic network that can be accessed by anybody with a cellphone and a halfway reliable internet connection including the billions of people, with a B, who are "unbanked" because they lack access to stable banking infrastructure. It enables anybody (with Bitcoin lightning) to send money internationally in under a second for pennies in fees. Having a settlement time for transactions of basically zero means that in an economy money can move faster. That means increased efficiency for any industry including the banking industry. It also offers us a way to opt out of an unsustainable inflationary currency environment, that is valuable to people as well. Constantly increasing the supply of money robs the money of value, it hurts the lower and middle classes the most. Bank runs happen, and banks are "too big to fail", so we have to bail them out, which is how the 99% end up paying for the investment risks of the 1%, the system is deeply flawed. But there is no solution to the bailout problem, if our entire economy will collapse if we don't do the bailout, we have to do the bailout, right?

Second, let's look at how much energy that takes. Bitcoin currently does this with less than 1% of global electricity usage. Even if it doesn't replace banking entirely, even if it only replaces remittance services (think PayPal, Western Union, etc). Think of every Western Union kiosk, branch, etc in the entire globe. Think of their lights, their servers, their call centers. How much energy is that? How much energy is used by SWIFT? PayPal? When you start adding these up, you find that we use well over this amount of electricity on remittance services. And we're not just waiting electricity and earth's resources, we're wasting the most valuable assets of all: time and human capital. We don't need people manually sending bank wires like it's 1910. We can have those people doing more valuable jobs.

Bitcoin's market cap is around 850 billion right now. That is bigger than the entire GDP of Sweden or Israel or Vietnam, it's in the top 25 countries by GDP. It transfers trillions of dollars of transactions every year. The average trend, year on year, is wider adoption and growth. It solves real problems and people recognize it and use it for that purpose. That's why big banks, hedge funds, and others invest in it.

There is also the wider discussion to be had about predicating our economies on currencies which grow to infinity and how that may not be a sustainable strategy on a planet with non-infinite resources. A currency which is constantly losing value incentivizes people to spend even if they don't actually need anything, because the currency is going to become worthless given enough time. This means more production is paid for than we actually need. More resources get used up. A deflationary currency, on the other hand, incentivizes the opposite. In a deflationary economic system, somebody producing a good or service must do more to make you want to buy it. In that environment, might products be more reliable? More repairable? Might they be built more sustainably? One can only speculate, but I personally feel positive about the knock-on effects of moving off an inflationary currency system.

ajayiyer ,
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Gentle reminder to everyone that support for ends in about 90 weeks. Many computers can't upgrade to Win 11 so here are your options:

  1. Continue on Win 10 but with higher security risks.
  2. Buy new and expensive hardware that supports Win11.
  3. Try a beginner friendly distro like . It only takes about two months to acclimate.

@nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

LeFantome ,

Gravity is not just attraction to the closest thing but also the heaviest thing.

As the galaxies “pass” each other, all stars will be attracted to the dense cores of each galaxy. That is going to change the trajectory of individual stars and, as an aggravate effect, the overall shape and distribution. Unless the galaxies are aligned on the same angle, this is going to drag stars off the primary plane.

As the galaxies approach, the arms will stretch out to each other. As they pass through each other, the planes will tug on each other, and after they “exit”, the arms will reach back.

All this new motion will disrupt the natural shape and trajectory of the galaxy as a whole. Depending on the momentum, it could get pulled back and the whole process could happen again ( and again ) with greater disorder each time.

cafeinux ,

Just an update because I just figured what happened: I booted the iso through Ventoy, and just saw today that by default Ventoy injects register entries to bypass the online account requirement (as well as the hardware checks). Good to know.

voxel , (edited )
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Hey 👋 dear Linux Community,

I'm still kinda new to Linux (started using this year 😅) I already made it to my main OS, even if I still missing some things which I used on Windows, anyway. What I wanted to ask you guys, what recommendations do you have for Linux Mint (Cinnamon)? In terms of security, optimization, (a way to make the UI looking modern ;-;) and privacy? I would be very interested in what you do guys to optimize your Linux setup :) I'm pretty technical, so there is nothing which could overwhelm me (probaly).

Thx! 🤍

@linux

moinsdix ,

Regarding the UI and the look and feel, I can highly recommend catppuccin as a theme in basically whatever you want.
I use it on Mint Cinnamon as well, and find it very good looking!

voxel OP ,
@voxel@infosec.exchange avatar

@const_void It's not about choosing distros in anyway, please read the post before you comment. 🙄

spiritedpause ,

A Sneak Peek at new linux distro Zorin OS 17

https://blog.zorin.com/2023/12/04/a-sneak-peek-at-zorin-os-17/

@linux

linuxdweeb ,

and KDE users didn’t even get anything new at all.

This is misinformation.

KDE users got a broken Nvidia driver.

jaeme ,

Zorin OS 17 isn’t going to dethrone Linux Mint any time soon. I wish they switched to following Ubuntu LTS releases instead of being on their own timeline. 22.04 package base is going to be 2 years old by the time this releases.

They obviously spent a lot of time on aesthetics and simplicity which seems to be the main appeal of the distribution.

uis ,
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Nix teaches Fedora some packaging magic

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2021/3/6/2565584.jpg

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